207 - "Did you do this? No, you did it!"

A_Ron_HubbardA_Ron_Hubbard Cincinnati, OH
Director: Keith Gordon
Writer: Noah Hawley and Matt Wolpert & Ben Nedivi
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  • UnderwoodUnderwood Philadelphia, PA
    Fargo was renewed for a 3rd season today!
    NikkiPRaiyneElisaFreddyksa1001TravisGarrison66
    "The mouse lady had kind eyes"
  • A_Ron_HubbardA_Ron_Hubbard Cincinnati, OH
    Excellent news! Can't wait to wildly speculate what season 3 will be!!

    Thoughts: Incredible opening.

    Lou triumphant was just as awesome as Lou with his back against the wall,if not more so.

    Look how much dignity Floyd has in the interrogation room with Hank and that other old fucker. DIGNITY!

    Simone’s drive with bear, wow. I got chills. I still can't believe he shot her. I thought sure he was just going to shave her head and banish her, as in Vichy France.

    Seeing the origins of the Souix Falls massacre is a lot more exciting than I thought it would be, and I already thought it would be plenty exciting.

    Betsy discovering her father's alien research was insane.

    Jesse Plemmons is killing it. His brief scene at the end was a great cherry on top of a great episode that covered an amazing amount of emotional real estate.
    UnderwoodAntManBeeElisaksa1001Travismanhattnik
  • edited November 2015
    I love that they've connected the alien thing to a character in a nonsupernatural way. He's just obsessed with the topic.

    I *loved* the reveal at the end that Ed has Dodd. Do other people think he had been calling the Gerharts but finally gave up and called Milligan? The guy from Buffalo didn't identify the previous callers as Hanzee.

    @A_Ron_Hubbard, what did you think of The Milligan and Kitchenette's badassery?
    ElisaTravis
    • Is Simone really dead, or was that a nod to another Coen movie where you can only speculate what happened?
    • I'm really disappointed in Floyd. You do what it takes to win, but having the cops do your dirty work? That's even lower than sneak attacking an invalid in his wheelchair. 
    • This was a great episode, but The Leftovers clearly won the week. Not that Fargo had much of a chance. 
  • When Betsy was in her dad's house, the whole time I was on the edge of my seat thinking somebody was going to shoot her or something. Of all the things she could've found in there, I never would've guessed that. So does Hank think the aliens can cure his daughter's cancer?
    DeeUnderwoodElisaksa1001Travis
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    Oh my gosh. This episode had a massive homage to my all time favourite film, Miller's Crossing. I loved it so much I was clapping while watching - I'm a sad loser, I know.

    Also got a distinct Sopranos vibe at one point - I'm sure that was deliberate too.
    hypergenesbDaveyMacUnderwoodRaiyneksa1001TravisGarrison66

  • Dee said:

     Also got a distinct Sopranos vibe at one point - I'm sure that was deliberate too.

    As soon as Simone got into Bear's car I thought "He's going to 'Adriana' her" 
    DeeDaveyMacUnderwoodAntManBee
  • I was wondering if we'd get the iconic Miller's Crossing scene this season. Only I was thinking that if we did get it that it would be Bear and Dodd. I was quite surprised to see that it was Simone at the other end of the gun. The car ride leading up to it definitely reminded me of Adriana as well. What beautiful overhead shots here, as well!

    Other Coen references I picked up were No Country for Old Men (The story about the kid killing his parents in their sleep and the cops wondering what the world is coming to.), The Big Lebowski ("I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in"), and Barton Fink (The hotel hallway). 

    And what a fantastic ending to a great episode with the Milligan/Undertaker meet and greet and Ed's phone call. 

    Only questions I have is why Lou and Hank didn't check in on Ed and Peggy sooner after that last scene with them in Rhinoceros saying they know where he's going, and also why Hanzee hasn't decided to take Ed and Peggy down yet, seeing as how he came out of the woods not long after Ed took off running down the road. Surely he would have been able to keep up? Maybe we just don't have all the information yet and we'll find out more. Or maybe it doesn't matter. 
    AntManBeeGarrison66
  • UnderwoodUnderwood Philadelphia, PA
    I loved all the Cohen callbacks this episode, but Nick Offerman being called "The Breakfast King" made me just so god damn happy. Every. Single. Episode. Gets. Better. And. Better.
    manhattnik
    "The mouse lady had kind eyes"
  • NikkiP said:

     what did you think of The Milligan and Kitchenette's badassery?

    That badassery coming right out of Travis Bickle. Taxi Driver came out in 1976, so that it to be deliberate.

    There were a couple more nods to the Fargo movie as well including Bear frustratingly smashing his cast on the hood of his truck like Jerry smacking his windshield with the ice scraper.
    All the nightmares came today, and it looks as though they're here to stay...
  • Interesting twist at the end there with Ed calling Mike Milligan, but not sure what his motivations would be? Why wouldn't he have just run off with Peggy? They want money? I'll have to see how this plays out.

    Good call, @NikkiP... I forgot about the unanswered phonecalls about Dodd to the Gerhart farmhouse earlier in the episode.

    Mike Milligan shooting the Undertaker was shocking to me. Then when the phone rang, I thought for a second that the Undertaker was on his way up now, and Mike shot someone else by mistake.

    Renewed for a third season! Good news, except it will have a lot to live up to!
    Elisa
  • FreddyFreddy Denton, Texas
    Underwood said:

    I loved all the Cohen callbacks this episode, but Nick Offerman being called "The Breakfast King" made me just so god damn happy. Every. Single. Episode. Gets. Better. And. Better.

    He's pouring up a stiff glass of Lagavulin before this season's said and done, I'm calling it now.
    Underwood
    I just want to be famous enough that a porn parody gets made about me.
  • kingbee67kingbee67 Los Angeles Ca.
    edited November 2015
    Erstwhile
    Jethro Tull, Locomotive Breath over the carnage, that's sweet.
    The image of Simmone in front of the grave and when she's in the forest is great cinematography.
    When did they get the dude from American Hustle.
    When Floyd declares she is gonna smoke, the guys take out a ash tray and she takes out a pipe. Did not see that coming. Can this show get any more eccentric.
    My prediction for season Three, Blood Simple.
    The undertaker is gonna need one.
    Best show for me this week.
    I really gotta re watch Miller's Crossing, I haven't seen it since it came out on VHS.
    ElisaRaiyne
  • Best show on TV!
    ElisaRaiyne
  • DrewDrew indianapolis
    Another 10/10. I don't think that Simone is dead, I think we would have atleast seen her body drop if she had. That ending was so good, I was really worried Mike was going to eat it this episode and instead he balls out on the Undertaker like he wasn't shit plus got the gift of Dodd.

    I have no idea what season 3 will be, at least in season 1 the Sioux Falls massacre was mentioned a few times, if they've dropped hints then I for sure haven't caught them.
    Elisa
  • Sioux Falls Massacre was mentioned in one of the last episodes I believe. So maybe we haven't got the hint yet. 
    No Half Measures....
  • If Noah Hawley ends up paying complete homage to the Miller's Crossing scene, then Simone would be alive and would play an instrumental role going forward, but I don't know that he would do that as it may be too predictable and close to the film. Plus the film was very unambiguous in showing that Gabriel Byrne let Tuturro live.

    I would be kind of disappointed if Simone shows up later alive and well as I think it would feel a bit like a cheap stunt to give the audience a surprise.
    Dee
  • Just this guy's opinion - I think Fargo won the week by a nose.
    ksa1001Elisa
    So what? No f*kin ziti now?
  • Dee said:

    Oh my gosh. This episode had a massive homage to my all time favourite film, Miller's Crossing. I loved it so much I was clapping while watching - I'm a sad loser, I know.

    Also got a distinct Sopranos vibe at one point - I'm sure that was deliberate too.

    Sopranos vibes in both of the current elite dramas.
    ksa1001
    So what? No f*kin ziti now?
  • I'm pretty sure every song featured in this season of Fargo has been a remake of songs in a Coen brothers film, yeah?  I counted three in the latest episode:  

    Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Was In) - The Big Lebowski
    Danny Boy - Miler's Crossing
    Oh, Death - Oh, Brother Where Art Thou

    FlashGordon
  • DaveyMac said:

    Only questions I have is why Lou and Hank didn't check in on Ed and Peggy sooner after that last scene with them in Rhinoceros saying they know where he's going, and also why Hanzee hasn't decided to take Ed and Peggy down yet, seeing as how he came out of the woods not long after Ed took off running down the road. Surely he would have been able to keep up? Maybe we just don't have all the information yet and we'll find out more. Or maybe it doesn't matter. 
    I'm hoping the next episode jumps back in time a bit and fills in the missing pieces with Ed/Peggy/Hanzee/Dodd. There are just too many questions about what happened with them between episode 6 and that phone call. 
  • edatlin said:


    Dee said:

     Also got a distinct Sopranos vibe at one point - I'm sure that was deliberate too.

    As soon as Simone got into Bear's car I thought "He's going to 'Adriana' her" 
    Three people in my household said that out loud when we were watching last night.
    edatlin
  • Season 3 prediction:  we go way back to the 30s and 40s to witness the rise of Deiter Gerhardt (Otto's father), from a young German immigrant arriving in North Dakota to the head of the powerful Gerhardt crime family.  Michael Shannon as Deiter.  

    Early this season we briefly see a photo of Deiter.  The actor looks so familiar but I can't place him. 
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    AntManBee
  • And bonus points to Simone for uttering the words "I'm the victim here" before her (likely?) death.
  • edited November 2015
    Floyd smoking a pipe? Would have been more believable if she did it right! LOL. Didn't load it right, didn't tamp it correctly . . . no wonder it didn't stay lit.
  • kingbee67kingbee67 Los Angeles Ca.
    edited November 2015
    The lost art of pipe smoking(feel free to add "that's what she said"). I didn't think anyone did that anymore. Where I live it seems if you smoke your some kind of outlaw. Long gone are the days when every mall had a Tinderbox. I have never seen a kit like Floyd had I thought she was gonna take out a needle and spoon and shoot up.
    @WBSimon maybe she did it wrong because no one on the set knew how to instruct her, that's my guess.
  • Looks like a nice Peterson though.
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    @Teletype I was waiting for her to say "Look in your heart", but she got close enough to MC with her "you don't have to do this" begging. Loved it, and made me want to rewatch Miller's Crossing yet again. :-)
    Teletype
  • DrewDrew indianapolis
    Hatorian said:

    Sioux Falls Massacre was mentioned in one of the last episodes I believe. So maybe we haven't got the hint yet. 

    Really? I thought I recalled Lou bringing it up to Gus or Molly as well as when he said it to Malvo, but I mean most of us also thought Lou said he remembered Malvo from somewhere and that was outright wrong so I won't put it past my feeble human brain.

    @kingbee67 Man I loved when she pulled out the pipe, usually you associate the pipe with an older man but she looked really natural, real bad ass. The women in this show are outstanding, very well written. That scene with Betsy bringing out the shotgun was great.
    Garrison66
  • @Drew your absolutely right. My point was that was in episode 9 or 10 if I remember correctly. So maybe they haven't hinted the season 3 plot yet. Maybe that happens in a later episode. That was my point. ;)
    No Half Measures....
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