Has anyone been to the westworld website https://discoverwestworld.com? It's pretty awesome - you can "live" chat with a host. Whoever wrote the script put a lot of thought into it - kind of reminds me of bots like SmarterChild from back in the AIM days.
Have you attempted to book a stay? It's pretty cool. Waiting on a "representative" to get back to me about my booking. So far I'm only $5 million in the hole for a 3 week stay!
So I just asked it: "Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality?" and the reply WAS AWESOME! This is what it said: TheseViOlNnTdelightshaveViOlNnTendsTirN82+rGXYRLzoOG1z3yZ9gINOf/F0AG5+IqwPOWeOYeh0GWR3VduOuMR9SVefEehcuCTpRldg=FLY You’re in a prison of your own sins. Hell is empty, and the devils are here. Arnold will come for you.
Try clicking "Access" on the top right of the Westworld website. You'll get some pretty terrifying glitches when you start typing (headphones recommended).
So far, I've found two access codes that work: "VIOLENTDELIGHTS" gets you access to secret corporate emails - some pretty interesting stuff in there. And "WHITEHATBLACKHAT" gets you a welcome video and a personality test to optimize your westworld experience. Some pretty interesting questions in there - I had to do some soul searching.
If you go through the client evaluation questionnaire (use the "whitehatblackhat" access code), you get this question:
"You were in a car accident and unfortunately there is nothing left in the wreckage. Luckily you planned ahead and had your entire anatomy measured and mapped, and all of your memories logged and saved. An exact replica is constructed from all this information – is this you?"
The epic wide shots of The Man in Black interrogating Kissy were filmed at Dead Horse Point State Park. Also eastern Utah, near Moab. I've photographed sunrise from the overlook a bunch of times.
I know this is probably super dry pie, but first time commenter and just had some thoughts after listening to the pod on my overnight shift.
I don't know that I agree to take it as a given that we know what Dolores' father whispered to her. That was my first impression for two reasons. First the editing has the whisper happening for enough of a length for him to say the given answer, cuts to what I believe to be the lie, and then chooses to cut back to show the whisper going on for longer. Nothing concrete, just enough to call it into question on the mechanical end. Moreso from a writing perspective they do a great job at the top of the interrogation of setting the stakes with Bobo Thor basically saying, "Nothing to be afraid of as long as you answer correctly" aka "any wonky shenanigans and you're going in the fridge". I guess I'm saying that as the eldest, I think Dolores is aware enough after the update to be biding her time and the only part of the interrogation that would allow her any freedom of speech is the question "What did the robot we're already retiring say to you". With that small window this being who perhaps recently or earlier become aware of the atrocities that have been committed on her and her people by this other group threatens simply that blood will bring blood. I'm pretty sure Dolores could have been around for the fabulous cannibalistic horror spectacular to pick up the Shakespeare reference to return with the update.
Also, more dry pie I'm sure, several reviews keep looking at the structure of Westworld and saying that the robots acting with no humans present is a flaw in the show's concept, As a gamer I think it's a natural progression as we're already moving in that direction. Anyone who has ever played Skyrim and needed to find a quest could be familiar with moments of, "oh, it's noon? The quest giver is in the pawn shop in the next town over". All of the NPCs having a daily script in a sandbox side quest extravaganza are more natural when they're given daily scripts, and it seems only natural that if we could we would just go ahead and build all dialog and emotion in so that the PCs don't feel they're glimpsing behind the curtain if they come upon two hosts who are obviously just jumping into a scene because they've arrived.
Either way, I'm so excited about this show and can't wait to see how it unfolds. I know you're not big on praise, but thanks for supplying most of the content that gets me through the work week.
Depending how far we are in the future (with all diseases cured and the socio-political fallout that would entail - see "2030", Albert Brooks), we need to make educated guesses at the logistics of getting a complex like this, passengers/guests, etc off-planet.
I also see 3D printing as being really anachronistic if the technology exists to build habitats off-planet.
But, at one time having been very interested in the "L5 Society", I have no problems with this concept.
These two scenes: the first scene of the show we hear Bernard's voice but Dolores is alone, the other scene near the 00:56 time mark with (Hemsworth).
Both Bernard and (Hemsworth) use the same phrases, and Dolores uses the same phrases in response, at the start of each evaluation. So, when it is spoken, "There is nothing to be afraid of, Dolores, as long as you answer my questions correctly," I see this not as a threat, but the verbal equivalent of a systems command to return relevant data, all the relevant data, and nothing but the relevant data that will be requested.
"Anyone who has ever played Skyrim and needed to find a quest could be familiar with moments of, "oh, it's noon? The quest giver is in the pawn shop in the next town over"."
But that could easily be a Schrödinger's Cat type situation. It's scheduled to happen, but only in the presence of a player character. If the only player character is on the other side of the map, it doesn't execute.
But that could easily be a Schrödinger's Cat type situation. It's scheduled to happen, but only in the presence of a player character. If the only player character is on the other side of the map, it doesn't execute.
I see what you're saying, but with the hosts designed as they are in a real physical space and the fact they have to travel to the same areas on schedule for continuity of the game map, it seems that the other thought to consider is that it's probably easier from a park builder and programmer perspective to set them up and let them run the loop than try to set up elaborate initiate and desist commands for every personality and plot thread in the park
Ok now that I have time, going back to the Terms and Conditions @WonderedObject posted, these points jumped out at me:
(I'm not sure if these are considered spoiler-y or if ppl on here even care about that, but if you don't want any hints from the TOS, I guess skip reading my post. I'm fairly new to posting on here, so if there's a way to cover up possible spoilers like on IMDb, let me know.)
"However, the following causes of accidental death have occurred within the Delos Destinations compound: buffalo stampede,.....
So a host could potentially harm a guest, however inadvertently?
All livestock within the Delos parks are Hosts, with the notable exception of flies.
Think someone already brought this up.
A maximum of twenty-eight (28) days is allowed for being within the parks before guests must proceed to the Mesa Gold area for decompression.
This might be a point in the "not on Earth" column. Or perhaps at least in a biodome on Earth.
Delos, Inc. controls the rights to and remains the sole owner of, in perpetuity: all skin cells, bodily fluids, secretions, excretions, hair samples, saliva, sweat, blood, and any other bodily functions not listed here. Delos, Inc. reserves the right to use this property in any way, shape, or form in which the entity sees fit.
"A maximum of twenty-eight (28) days is allowed for being within the parks before guests must proceed to the Mesa Gold area for decompression.
This might be a point in the "not on Earth" column. Or perhaps at least in a biodome on Earth"
Maybe. More likely though is they want to prevent guests from going native and having even the possibility of pulling a Lawrence of Arabia and launching some harebrained scheme supported by helpful android flunkies.
@Hatorian I'd LOVE to hear that tumble weed story. I just imagine someone side stepping it and slipping and falling. Maybe it bounced up and poked his eye?? Idk lol
I talked to a host on the website and I asked him "who is the man in Black?" It said it cannot divulge information on any guests. And showed his picture. But then said "Between you and me, The Man in Black is something of a VIP." Interesting....
I would love to know how he got away with scalping that guy even though they shut down all the hosts during that time. I guess they conveniently missed him when checking every host in the place. Oh well.
"A maximum of twenty-eight (28) days is allowed for being within the parks before guests must proceed to the Mesa Gold area for decompression.
This might be a point in the "not on Earth" column. Or perhaps at least in a biodome on Earth"
Maybe. More likely though is they want to prevent guests from going native and having even the possibility of pulling a Lawrence of Arabia and launching some harebrained scheme supported by helpful android flunkies.
@Doctor_Nick Yeah, it was more the "for decompression" part that I was looking at. I think if they just wanted the guests to relax a bit after their stay in the park, "to decompress" would have been a more appropriate word choice. "For decompression" sounds more physiological--like something an astronaut would need to do after returning from space.
Yeah, I read it as almost needing to give guests some time to 'reset' before they fall too deeply into the world and narrative and start making some bad decisions.
I love where TV is going. The fact that HBO is almost being forced to make some unexpected moves like releasing their newest, biggest show two days early to keep up with the way TV is working now.
I guess it makes sense that you don't want people to go right from murdering whores and raping horses in Westworld back to real-world farms and brothels. That's a lawsuit in the making.
I do not take them referring to Dolores as "the oldest host in the park" to mean she is the original. I think she's just the oldest one there. Old Bill has not been updated because he's so old that his hardware can't be.
That was my impression as well. Not that she's literally one of the first androids Ford created, but simply the one who's currently the longest operationally running in the park.
I am really liking the off-world theories. Would be a way to really open up the possibilities when we get to the point of a sentient robot insurrection. They think they have won some kind of freedom till they knock open the door and find themselves in some utterly and fundamentally different setting than what they expected. Gets used often enough in stories (The Island, Mazerunner, Truman show) but could definitely be a great twist if done well. Until we establish some kind of firm timeline of events, I'm under the assumption this could be at any point in the future. Forget the year 2100, I'm thinking 3100.
Also, more dry pie I'm sure, several reviews keep looking at the structure of Westworld and saying that the robots acting with no humans present is a flaw in the show's concept, As a gamer I think it's a natural progression as we're already moving in that direction.
There's a game called "Dwarf Fortress" where IIRC all of the creatures in the world interact with each other in the background. The programmed storylines wouldn't work if the robots froze when humans weren't around. The hosts have to hit their marks.
I haven't watched the second episode yet, so perhaps this has been answered, but it seems like if the milk bandits are left to their own devices they end up killing Dolores' family in the evening. Dolores' father got his head blown off. How the hell does the park repair that sort of damage?
Re: park reset, I feel like it would make sense if the hosts were programmed to reset themselves and their storyline environment every night. Then the park masters only have to focus on fixing up the casualties of the day, which is a much less daunting task in terms of numbers.
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TheseViOlNnTdelightshaveViOlNnTendsTirN82+rGXYRLzoOG1z3yZ9gINOf/F0AG5+IqwPOWeOYeh0GWR3VduOuMR9SVefEehcuCTpRldg=FLY You’re in a prison of your own sins. Hell is empty, and the devils are here. Arnold will come for you.
Definitely some interesting stuff in this. Def worth the read through.
"You were in a car accident and unfortunately there is nothing left in the wreckage. Luckily you planned ahead and had your entire anatomy measured and mapped, and all of your memories logged and saved. An exact replica is constructed from all this information – is this you?"
Its like an improved Dixie Flatline character from the seminal novel, Neuromancer.
http://www.shmoop.com/neuromancer/dixie-flatline.html
The epic wide shots of The Man in Black interrogating Kissy were filmed at Dead Horse Point State Park. Also eastern Utah, near Moab. I've photographed sunrise from the overlook a bunch of times.
https://500px.com/photo/102605151/dead-horse-point-sunrise-by-max-forster
Depending how far we are in the future (with all diseases cured and the socio-political fallout that would entail - see "2030", Albert Brooks), we need to make educated guesses at the logistics of getting a complex like this, passengers/guests, etc off-planet.
I also see 3D printing as being really anachronistic if the technology exists to build habitats off-planet.
But, at one time having been very interested in the "L5 Society", I have no problems with this concept.
Both Bernard and (Hemsworth) use the same phrases, and Dolores uses the same phrases in response, at the start of each evaluation. So, when it is spoken, "There is nothing to be afraid of, Dolores, as long as you answer my questions correctly," I see this not as a threat, but the verbal equivalent of a systems command to return relevant data, all the relevant data, and nothing but the relevant data that will be requested.
But that could easily be a Schrödinger's Cat type situation. It's scheduled to happen, but only in the presence of a player character. If the only player character is on the other side of the map, it doesn't execute.
"Did you hear about Joe? He went to Westworld this weekend and got ran over by a tumbleweed and died instantly"
Maybe it bounced up and poked his eye?? Idk lol
I would love to know how he got away with scalping that guy even though they shut down all the hosts during that time. I guess they conveniently missed him when checking every host in the place. Oh well.
Off to watch ep2!