Am I the only one really looking forward to this commission? As a child of the 90s it has always been one of my favs and Gary Busey was great...before he went crazy and such!
This is a good movie to show the difference between the internet being so prevalent now compared to then. The surfers had heard of Johnny Utah, he was a famous college quarterback. But apparently nobody googled him to see that he had any law enforcement background before inviting him into their inner crime/surfing/roundhouse-kicking circle.
They did have ESPN though. I couldn't believe any fan that is knowledgeable enough to know the starting QB of THE Ohio State University, wouldn't have seen the many features on Sports Center about his injury, re-hab, and dedication to fighting crime in the FBI. It's like being aware of Pat Tillman but not aware that he joined the Rangers then died due to friendly fire.
Fortunately, it's not even in the top 10 stupid things about this movie, and it still manages to be great.
This is a good movie to show the difference between the internet being so prevalent now compared to then. The surfers had heard of Johnny Utah, he was a famous college quarterback. But apparently nobody googled him to see that he had any law enforcement background before inviting him into their inner crime/surfing/roundhouse-kicking circle.
"Apparently"? Well this movie was made 7-8 years before Google was founded. Also, the WWW wasn't publicly available until August of that year. Back then you made phone calls to people "in the know" or judged character by how one cared with you, not by their digital footprint (which would be basically zero).
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We will be doing our Point Break cast this weekend so the Bald Move community can get TWO! TWO! TWO! commissions in one for this 90s action classic.
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I was a little surprised the guys didn't point out the parallels between Point Break and another film (series) they enjoy.
In Point Break, a young, cool FBI agent must take up a new, awesome, action-packed hobby to infiltrate a specific subculture because there is the tiniest amount of evidence that there is a criminal ring pulling off robberies who also participates in said awesome, action-packed hobby. Eventually, the FBI agent becomes a fringe member of a group that turns out to be the criminal ring, befriending the leader, and falling in love with the token female of the group. When the criminal ring goes for one last big score, and things go badly, the FBI agent's cover is blown, and in the end, instead of bringing the group's leader to justice (when he could easily do so) the FBI agent lets him go (apparently) because the two have built a strong bond over their shared love of the awesome, action-packed hobby.
Sound familiar? It's The Fast and The Furious!
... both are fun, over the top action flicks, but (and this isn't necessarily a complaint), they may also be the result of a game of Mad Libs. I'm wondering; are there any other movies that could (more or less) fit this description?
This is a good movie to show the difference between the internet being so prevalent now compared to then. The surfers had heard of Johnny Utah, he was a famous college quarterback. But apparently nobody googled him to see that he had any law enforcement background before inviting him into their inner crime/surfing/roundhouse-kicking circle.
"Apparently"? Well this movie was made 7-8 years before Google was founded. Also, the WWW wasn't publicly available until August of that year. Back then you made phone calls to people "in the know" or judged character by how one cared with you, not by their digital footprint (which would be basically zero).
I realize when google was a thing that was just to point out how in a really short time a movie can become dated due to a technology divide. The internet wasn't available so somebody fairly famous was able to infiltrate this gang easily. Just a few years later look how easy it would have been to type for 5 seconds and figure out this new guy is a cop right from the start.
I didn't see this film until about a year ago, just so I could fully comprehend the backlash in light of the new one. The thing I could not understand is how people got to saying, "Johnny Utah always gets his man." JOHNNY UTAH NEVER GETS HIS MAN. They alll die, usually because of his direct action or inaction. He is the worst FBI agent ever.
I didn't see this film until about a year ago, just so I could fully comprehend the backlash in light of the new one. The thing I could not understand is how people got to saying, "Johnny Utah always gets his man." JOHNNY UTAH NEVER GETS HIS MAN. They alll die, usually because of his direct action or inaction. He is the worst FBI agent ever.
In Minneapolis they used to do live performances of Point Break at a local bowling alley. Johnny Utah was traditionally played by a random audience member who would read his lines off of cue cards.
On the podcast, Jim & A.Ron commented on the over-aggressive surfer gang that Johnny Utah originally thinks are the Dead Presidents -- referring to them as the Red Hot Chili Peppers at one point. I'm not sure if the reference was intentional, in that Anthony Kiedis, ie. lead singer of the Chili Peppers, actually plays one of the over-aggressive surfers. He's the one who shoots himself in the foot. Sadly no Flea though.
Sion and I are planning on doing our Point Break answer-cast this weekend. Here's your chance to get your feedback into two-two-two casts in one. Post here for feedbacky goodness!
So, I just saw the remake last night. What can I say, I was doing the boring job of debugging our pre-lit christmas tree to figure out why about 1/3 of the lights weren't on, and wanted something dumb and fun.
The problem is, it was twice as dumb and half as fun as the original. I'd love to hear a more informed compare and contrast between the two. The most egregious sin, other than the way too dark and bummer tone throughout, is having the Lori Petty character be killed, and by Utah himself, no less.
I guess I just don't understand the point of the remake. You can't make a "serious" version of Point Break. I get that most remakes are misguided, but I dunno, it seems like you could do an update with a new cast, keep the new and varied extreme sports angle, but ditch the dour and pump up the fun. It really bummed me out. Also really made me appreciate Keanu even more. He makes what he does look easy. And what he does is basically just be Keanu.
@A_Ron_Hubbard i felt the same way when I saw the new version. Seemed like they were trying to make it some quasi spiritual journey with the 8 tasks or whatever and give the audience a way to relate to the villains. Hated the new Lori Petty and it seemed like a way to just exploit the whole extreme sport craze these days.
Did you notice though that the actor who played Roach in the original has a cameo as an FBI agent when Utah is presenting his case in the meeting?
So, I just saw the remake last night. What can I say, I was doing the boring job of debugging our pre-lit christmas tree to figure out why about 1/3 of the lights weren't on, and wanted something dumb and fun.
The problem is, it was twice as dumb and half as fun as the original. I'd love to hear a more informed compare and contrast between the two. The most egregious sin, other than the way too dark and bummer tone throughout, is having the Lori Petty character be killed, and by Utah himself, no less.
I guess I just don't understand the point of the remake. You can't make a "serious" version of Point Break. I get that most remakes are misguided, but I dunno, it seems like you could do an update with a new cast, keep the new and varied extreme sports angle, but ditch the dour and pump up the fun. It really bummed me out. Also really made me appreciate Keanu even more. He makes what he does look easy. And what he does is basically just be Keanu.
It's a shame. I haven't seen it yet, the trailer made it look like a pile of shit. So many of these remakes suffer from a total lack of imagination. If they really wanted to make a dark version of Point Break, they should have just watched The Town instead. I'm not one who craps on remakes needlessly, but if you're going to make one, have something to say.
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We will be doing our Point Break cast this weekend so the Bald Move community can get TWO! TWO! TWO! commissions in one for this 90s action classic.
The Natterborn stand with Bald Move and are prepared to make you this fantastic deal: if you commission a cast with Bald Move or otherwise make a contribution to keeping Jim and Aron up and running, we at the Natter Cast will also cast any movie you want.
You can ask us to do the same movie. You can ask for a different movie. You support Bald Move, we support you.
Just drop us a line at nattercast@gmail.com or join us on Facebook and let us know.
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In Point Break, a young, cool FBI agent must take up a new, awesome, action-packed hobby to infiltrate a specific subculture because there is the tiniest amount of evidence that there is a criminal ring pulling off robberies who also participates in said awesome, action-packed hobby. Eventually, the FBI agent becomes a fringe member of a group that turns out to be the criminal ring, befriending the leader, and falling in love with the token female of the group. When the criminal ring goes for one last big score, and things go badly, the FBI agent's cover is blown, and in the end, instead of bringing the group's leader to justice (when he could easily do so) the FBI agent lets him go (apparently) because the two have built a strong bond over their shared love of the awesome, action-packed hobby.
Sound familiar? It's The Fast and The Furious!
... both are fun, over the top action flicks, but (and this isn't necessarily a complaint), they may also be the result of a game of Mad Libs. I'm wondering; are there any other movies that could (more or less) fit this description?
I realize when google was a thing that was just to point out how in a really short time a movie can become dated due to a technology divide. The internet wasn't available so somebody fairly famous was able to infiltrate this gang easily. Just a few years later look how easy it would have been to type for 5 seconds and figure out this new guy is a cop right from the start.
I feel like John McGinley just thinking about it.
On the podcast, Jim & A.Ron commented on the over-aggressive surfer gang that Johnny Utah originally thinks are the Dead Presidents -- referring to them as the Red Hot Chili Peppers at one point. I'm not sure if the reference was intentional, in that Anthony Kiedis, ie. lead singer of the Chili Peppers, actually plays one of the over-aggressive surfers. He's the one who shoots himself in the foot. Sadly no Flea though.
Did you notice though that the actor who played Roach in the original has a cameo as an FBI agent when Utah is presenting his case in the meeting?