302 - Witness

Director: Vince Gilligan
Writer: Thomas Schnauz
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  • Garthgou81Garthgou81 Placerville, CA
    The way I listened the Insider Cast, they made it almost sound like this is the second part of the first episode. I kind of like to think of it that way. Not because I didn't enjoy the first episode, but it was sort of just a continuation of the end of the finale of from Season 2. It didn't really set the tone like the last season's premiere did. 
  • JoshuaHeterJoshuaHeter Omaha, NE
    I already know... I'm going to have to watch this episode a minimum of 3 or 4 times.
  • It's incredible how a show that can at times move so slowly and at the same time can advance the plot incredibly well even without dialogue.
  • A decent episode, but I'm having a few issues so far. One, I think the whole cat and mouse game with Mike and the 'transmitter' is dragging on a little too slowly. Two, we as the watcher know the context of Chucks recording, but I don't believe Ernie, with what little he heard, would make the jump to know what relevance it truly had. Three, surely Jimmie blew his cover while following the package at Los Pollos, but he's WAY too street smart to be so obvious in doing so. Especially since he knew that something illicit was going down. And finally, as a general observation, I think the Villigan has made a large gaff with the 'fringsback' anagram from last season. It's really killed the suspense of this seasons reveals, and this season feels less dramatic so far.
    Brian Mac
    Kela15
  • FreddyFreddy Denton, Texas
    edited April 18
    @BrianMac I'm liking it so far, but at the same time, no matter how good the foreplay is, it isn't the sex. And we all know that Gus is the sex.
    I just want to be famous enough that a porn parody gets made about me.
  • emnofseattleemnofseattle Mason County, Washington USA
    BrianMac said:

    A decent episode, but I'm having a few issues so far. One, I think the whole cat and mouse game with Mike and the 'transmitter' is dragging on a little too slowly. Two, we as the watcher know the context of Chucks recording, but I don't believe Ernie, with what little he heard, would make the jump to know what relevance it truly had. Three, surely Jimmie blew his cover while following the package at Los Pollos, but he's WAY too street smart to be so obvious in doing so. Especially since he knew that something illicit was going down. And finally, as a general observation, I think the Villigan has made a large gaff with the 'fringsback' anagram from last season. It's really killed the suspense of this seasons reveals, and this season feels less dramatic so far.
    Brian Mac

    I agree, Jimmy was a portrayed last season as being a very capable con man, I don't think he'd bungle such a simple job like he did. This would be like if you hired Ernie to tail the guy into Gus's restaurant 


  • The way I listened the Insider Cast, they made it almost sound like this is the second part of the first episode. I kind of like to think of it that way. Not because I didn't enjoy the first episode, but it was sort of just a continuation of the end of the finale of from Season 2. It didn't really set the tone like the last season's premiere did. 

    I AM NEW TO CLUB BALD MOVE - WHERE ARE THE INSIDE PODCASTS LOCATED?


  • If the Jimmy case goes to court, how will Mesa Verde not know about the 1261 to 1216 stuff?  Does this mean Kim gets screwed as a side effect?
  • emnofseattleemnofseattle Mason County, Washington USA


    If the Jimmy case goes to court, how will Mesa Verde not know about the 1261 to 1216 stuff?  Does this mean Kim gets screwed as a side effect?

    Possibly, It would be interesting to see how that plays out. 

    However, something clearly will go Jimmy's way because if Jimmy were convicted in a criminal case involving home invasion, making threats, etc and in addition there's evidence that he falsified legal documents I don't see how he could still legally be practicing law by the start of breaking bad. 
  • For me the reveals of familiar characters have been underwhelming. I'd rather see them happen without soon much lead-up and masking. Otherwise, great.
    So what? No f*kin ziti now?
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    edited April 18

    I AM NEW TO CLUB BALD MOVE - WHERE ARE THE INSIDE PODCASTS LOCATED?

    @johnnyhands The Better Call Saul Insider podcast is hosted by Kelley Dixon and the creators of the show.
  • Lucas Milwaukee
    I would be interested to know where Jim stands now, is he back on the Chuck hater side?  Because at this point I think Chuck is back in the head asshole spot ahead of Jimmy.  Intentionally destroying your brother's life and probably Kim's, that's cold man.
    manhattnik
  • BigSmellBigSmell Raleigh, NC
    Hamlin's baby jumps were just so funny to me for some reason. My roommate kept shouting, "Bend your knees dude!" Loving the slow burn of this season so far. 

    Also, it feels great to be back for this golden period of TV we are beginning to get this year. What a time to be a BaldMove subscriber!!
    DummyMelonusk
    Yeah, I'll have the X5
  • Dee said:

    I AM NEW TO CLUB BALD MOVE - WHERE ARE THE INSIDE PODCASTS LOCATED?

    @johnnyhands The Better Call Saul Insider podcast is hosted by Kelley Dixon and the creators of the show.
    Oh, right, and thanks.  Doesn't Bald Move have some kind of first impressions podcast for episodes (subscriber only) that comes out soon after the episode airs (and then they do a full review two days later)?  If so, that is what I couldn't find.
    Dee
  • BigSmell said:

    Hamlin's baby jumps were just so funny to me for some reason. My roommate kept shouting, "Bend your knees dude!" Loving the slow burn of this season so far. 


    Also, it feels great to be back for this golden period of TV we are beginning to get this year. What a time to be a BaldMove subscriber!!
    I totally agree on both points.  1) Watching Hamlin risk dog attacks and who knows what else, then the weak jumps at the wall IN THAT SUIT was hilarious. 2) Between HBO, AMC and FX, there is some great TV almost all week long.
    BigSmell
  • Shum Utah
    @johnnyhands. They do an Instant Take for Game of Thrones, which you don't need to be a subscriber for. They don't really do instant takes for any other show.
  • AjasAjas Seattle, WA
    edited April 18
    The music production is phenomenal... that is totally the difference to me during those Mike scenes (that might otherwise be "boring").  Plus they toss in so many clever details-- like panning past Gus's blue Volvo in the parking lot before the "Pollos Hermanos" reveal to a scathing synth beat with the Dead End sign.

    And I love how they introduced Francesca-- "You're... a little crooked".  I can tell her character is going to be a lot of fun.

    Although I agree with BrianMac above-- I just don't buy that Jimmy would botch the snooping so badly. Much like I wouldn't buy that he would get conned by Chuck so simply last season.

    I also appreciate they gave up on de-aging the characters.  That was really distracting in previous seasons.
    DummyDoubleA_RonMelonusk
  • Was anyone else imagining the look on Mikes face as Francesca broke into her contrived folksy tone? I just about lost it when she started the Cracker Barrel bit. The guys mentioned the lighting storm caught last week. It reminded me of one time I visited my sister in Santa Fe and caught one of these lighting storms in all its natural glory. Probably one of the most remarkable natural events I've ever seen.
    JoshuaHeterStephen
  • DeeDee Adelaide

    Dee said:

    I AM NEW TO CLUB BALD MOVE - WHERE ARE THE INSIDE PODCASTS LOCATED?

    @johnnyhands The Better Call Saul Insider podcast is hosted by Kelley Dixon and the creators of the show.
    Oh, right, and thanks.  Doesn't Bald Move have some kind of first impressions podcast for episodes (subscriber only) that comes out soon after the episode airs (and then they do a full review two days later)?  If so, that is what I couldn't find.
    Not for this show, no. They do occasionally for others, most recently Game of Thrones.
  • JoshuaHeterJoshuaHeter Omaha, NE
    Dee said:

    Dee said:

    I AM NEW TO CLUB BALD MOVE - WHERE ARE THE INSIDE PODCASTS LOCATED?

    @johnnyhands The Better Call Saul Insider podcast is hosted by Kelley Dixon and the creators of the show.
    Oh, right, and thanks.  Doesn't Bald Move have some kind of first impressions podcast for episodes (subscriber only) that comes out soon after the episode airs (and then they do a full review two days later)?  If so, that is what I couldn't find.
    Not for this show, no. They do occasionally for others, most recently Game of Thrones.
    I just went back and listened to the end of the preview cast for season 3. They said they are planning on doing instant takes. I think it's just that Aron was on vacation for a bit, he just got back, and they wanted to do a Bald Movies cast for the Fast and the Furious movie ASAP (i.e. last night). Maybe / hopefully we'll get one next week.
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    @JoshuaHeter Ah, my mistake - cheers! :-)
    JoshuaHeter
  • davemcbdavemcb Melbourne
    I loved Howard jumping fences in his Hamlindigo suit it was classic BB universe, both tense and funny without being over the top. 

    Chuck affirms his status as an unwashed asshole but I'm also happy that his plan has already come through and we didn't have it last for 3-4 episodes. Like someone else mentioned the show appears slow at times but also moves the show along fast, other flawed shows would have kept the tape as a plot piece for about half the season and it would have been frustrating. 

    I'm liking the start of the season so far!
    manhattnik
  • StephenStephen New York
    "Speed Hump Ahead." I love this show.
  • gguenotgguenot CA
    edited April 19
    The Wexler McGill tape on their wall looks like a stock tanking. If you view it as Jimmys character arc, it's kind of fitting, with his final crash and burn after BB

    Edit: posted this right at the beginning of the episode, doesn't seem too impressive that I thought it looked like a stock crash when they make mention of it later in the episode
    Murderbear
  • LukeLuke Central Illinois
    edited April 19
    I also find the Mike/Gus stuff to be moving a bit too slowly. I really feel like Vince has kind of crawled up his own ass with how clever they think they are slowly revealing how Mike meets Gus. Having Gus in all the promos kind of ruins the suspense imo.

    I mean hell did we really need that overly dramatic scene in the desert? We all know Mike doesn't get killed and ends up working for Gus. And we all know that Gus doesn't mind talking business in his restaurant since he did so with Walt. They might as well have just had Gus get into Mikes car or have the inevitable meeting happen at the restaurant.

    Chuck is a piece of shit, at this rate I really hope something bad happens to him. Unfortunately when Chuck get what's coming to him it will likely mean Kim gets burned too.

    I still think Jimmy has a trump card in that Chuck clearly is still holding on to his delusions of electrical allergies. He could send Chuck into an episode, commit him to a mental ward, and bankrupt HHM. Hell if he does this he gets rid of Chuck and can then blackmail Howard and the PI who is hired by Howard to not testify against him.
    Kela15
  • Yeah, Jimmy turning into a bad amateur operator was a little odd.

    Also up there in odd is Mike being capable of devising this whole clever tracker reversal, but only switching vehicles after he had already been tailing Gus's people and hanging around Los Pollos in his very distinctive old Chrysler Fifth Avenue that not only stands out from other cars but is also well known to all the people he's shadowing.  Does not compute.  
  • A few questions for the Pod or not:


    1 - Any chance Gus is at this point a) not yet involved in the Drug business at all, or b) not yet in his kingpin-role, so we get to see his rise from maybe second or third-banana (or lower) to the king of the drug-jungle?


    2 - I just can't watch Jonathan Banks without being worried about his age...at this point in the show, as his part becomes more central than at least I expected it to ever be, it seems pretty hard to find a good way out if JB might be "not available" for future seasons...you touched on this topic in earlier seasons, how do you feel about it at this particular point?


    3 - With Gus, Victor and Francesca we increase the share of people whose future (at least as far as Breaking Bad goes for them) we know by a significant margin. For me it becomes magically even more satisfying to just see how rather than what happens (the way I enjoyed the whole inevitable Gus-waiting surprised me). 

    How do you feel about the Known-Unknown-Ratio (meaning Chuck/Kim/Nacho/Howard/... versus Jimmy/Gus/Victor/Mike/...) at this point? 


    4 - Are you worried due to the pretty disappointing show-low ratings? Could season 4 (or god forbid even 3) be the end? Or could they try to make the following season(s) more "mainstream" in order to attract more viewers? 
    I really hope the Villigang got 100% immunity from such mechanisms, but I'm not sure how long this immunity can sustain (both from AMC and their own perspective)...
  • 1a), Gus not involved in drugs yet, I don't think possible, given that we've seen the back pack guy (Victor?) handling white packets and going every day to Pollos Hermanos, and that Mike was found out to be tracking the trackers with the gas cap and burner phone at the end of E2 - that had to be Gus that arranged that - Jimmy's trash can hunt was the only thing to raise any suspicions.  

     1b) Gus is not yet the kingpin is still possible - though I think it unlikely, but we don't really have evidence yet one way or the other, do we?

    A few questions for the Pod or not:



    1 - Any chance Gus is at this point a) not yet involved in the Drug business at all, or b) not yet in his kingpin-role, so we get to see his rise from maybe second or third-banana (or lower) to the king of the drug-jungle?
  • If Jimmy really ends up having ran right into a confession, that would seem like such a cheap move for the show. He knows Chuck is out to get him but he still so sloppily admits his guilt out loud AGAIN? He has to be playing an angle, or we have to believe he just forgets common sense due to Chuck, and that would definitely seem odd for season 3 Jimmy...
  • 1a), Gus not involved in drugs yet, I don't think possible, given that we've seen the back pack guy (Victor?) handling white packets and going every day to Pollos Hermanos, and that Mike was found out to be tracking the trackers with the gas cap and burner phone at the end of E2 - that had to be Gus that arranged that - Jimmy's trash can hunt was the only thing to raise any suspicions.  


     1b) Gus is not yet the kingpin is still possible - though I think it unlikely, but we don't really have evidence yet one way or the other, do we?

    A few questions for the Pod or not:



    1 - Any chance Gus is at this point a) not yet involved in the Drug business at all, or b) not yet in his kingpin-role, so we get to see his rise from maybe second or third-banana (or lower) to the king of the drug-jungle?

    As far as I know we have no real evidence in any direction. Of course it's highly unlikely, but it's not entirely impossible that Los Pollos Hermanos is already the Hub for the Drug-Business without Gus' knowledge. But I guess especially with BB-Flashbacks to his involvement with the cartel this would rather have to be a "break from the business" than a 100% drug-unrelated Gus. 

    So 1b) might be in play and I think it could be a cool storyline if we see Gus here as #2 or #3 in the "LPH drug-department" and have a storyline in which he outsmarts the guy(s) above him in order to be "the chicken man".
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