Apple iPhone X

edited September 14 in General
"Apple’s 10th anniversary iPhone is finally here and it’s called the iPhone X [Ten (where's the 9? Who knows?)] .... The iPhone X not only improves on previous iPhones, it also closes the gap even further between Apple’s phones and flagship Android devices thanks to new features such as wireless charging, facial recognition, and a stunning OLED display.

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"It also goes without saying that Apple didn’t bring back the headphone jack ... By this point, some of you may be wondering where the Apple’s traditional home button is. The answer is that it’s gone, killed in part by the X’s bezel-less design, which leaves no room for a Touch ID sensor below the screen. But don’t get too sad, because despite being the first iPhone without a home button, Apple has included new 3D facial recognition tech called Face ID which can unlock the phone just by seeing your face. [which failed in the demo]"




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  • I know that these are better made, stronger, have better glass etc but the bezel-less design makes using a sturdy case more difficult.  I went through a period a few years back (like iPhone 4 era) when my phone was getting broken way too often...I went through like 3-4 of them, damaging them from relatively routine use - a few accidents along the way, but a phone should be able to get knocked off the arm of a chair and not shatter when it hits a carpeted floor!

    When I got my 5 I bought a "Lifeproof" brand case...they're bulky and do add some weight to the phone, but I haven't broken a phone since using them and they've been through MUCH worse than I've ever put any phone through.  Before using Lifeproof cases, my phone was a constant concern - I handled it with kid gloves.  Now I don't think about it at all.

    I swear this isn't an ad for Lifeproof :D


    KingKobradarwinfeeshy
  • FreddyFreddy Denton, Texas
    hisdudeness915bizmarkiefader
    I just want to be famous enough that a porn parody gets made about me.
  • I've never broken a phone and I just use an open face bumper type case. iPhone 4s or 6 plus. They seem to take a hit on even ground ok.
    russkelly
  • I know that these are better made, stronger, have better glass etc but the bezel-less design makes using a sturdy case more difficult.  I went through a period a few years back (like iPhone 4 era) when my phone was getting broken way too often...I went through like 3-4 of them, damaging them from relatively routine use - a few accidents along the way, but a phone should be able to get knocked off the arm of a chair and not shatter when it hits a carpeted floor!

    When I got my 5 I bought a "Lifeproof" brand case...they're bulky and do add some weight to the phone, but I haven't broken a phone since using them and they've been through MUCH worse than I've ever put any phone through.  Before using Lifeproof cases, my phone was a constant concern - I handled it with kid gloves.  Now I don't think about it at all.

    I swear this isn't an ad for Lifeproof :D


     Yeah, I put my 5 & 6 in an Otterbox right as I got them. They're clunky, inelegant cases, but I like not having to worry about my phone getting damaged.
    CretanBull
  • I know that these are better made, stronger, have better glass etc but the bezel-less design makes using a sturdy case more difficult.  I went through a period a few years back (like iPhone 4 era) when my phone was getting broken way too often...I went through like 3-4 of them, damaging them from relatively routine use - a few accidents along the way, but a phone should be able to get knocked off the arm of a chair and not shatter when it hits a carpeted floor!

    When I got my 5 I bought a "Lifeproof" brand case...they're bulky and do add some weight to the phone, but I haven't broken a phone since using them and they've been through MUCH worse than I've ever put any phone through.  Before using Lifeproof cases, my phone was a constant concern - I handled it with kid gloves.  Now I don't think about it at all.

    I swear this isn't an ad for Lifeproof :D


     Yeah, I put my 5 & 6 in an Otterbox right as I got them. They're clunky, inelegant cases, but I like not having to worry about my phone getting damaged.



    My brother has an Otterbox case and he really likes it.  I'm using this one:

    http://www.lifeproof.com/en-us/iphone-6s/fre-for-iphone-6-iphone-6s/lpfr-apl-iph15.html

    The case has taken a bit of a beating and is a bit worse for wear, but the phone inside is as mint as the day I bought it!

  • I've always just used slim Ringke or Spigen cases for my phone, don't add to much bulk but do prevent the glass from making a direct hit when dropped. The bulkier cases seem like overkill to me unless you're often in a harsh environment, plus they make it hard to fit the phone in my jeans pocket.
    KingKobra
  • MrX said:

    I've always just used slim Ringke or Spigen cases for my phone, don't add to much bulk but do prevent the glass from making a direct hit when dropped. The bulkier cases seem like overkill to me unless you're often in a harsh environment, plus they make it hard to fit the phone in my jeans pocket.

    Another vote for Spigen, have used them for the past few phones I have had. Recently I started adding the "glass" screen protectors as well.
    jazzminawa
  • I love shiny new electronics, especially from Apple. I want the X so bad, but I don't know if I can fade that price. Ugh. Also, have they said yet whether you can turn face ID off? Courts have already ruled in most cases that you can be compelled to unlock your phone without a warrant using your fingerprint (unless you turn that access off) because biometric data isn't protected. I'm assuming your face would fall under that too.
    gguenotCretanBullElisa
  • I love shiny new electronics, especially from Apple. I want the X so bad, but I don't know if I can fade that price. Ugh. Also, have they said yet whether you can turn face ID off? Courts have already ruled in most cases that you can be compelled to unlock your phone without a warrant using your fingerprint (unless you turn that access off) because biometric data isn't protected. I'm assuming your face would fall under that too.

    Someone could be in handcuffs while a cop held that person's phone up to their face to unlock it...
    Elisa
  • @CretanBull That's exactly what I thought about. You wouldn't even have to be under arrest - they could just "detain" you, go through your phone and delete any photo or video you took of them, or even look for something to arrest you for. 
    CretanBullElisa
  • cdrivecdrive Houston, TX
    edited September 15
    Couldn't they have done that with your thumb with the fingerprint unlock for the last few years? And yet no instances or rumors...


    I want a new phone too. On a sales call this MFer knocked my phone out of my hand while I was taking photos of shit he asked me to take photos of. It fell into a vat of machine lube. Wife's phone is jacked too. We're due in a few months. We're iPhoners just cause I like shit to work. The X looks niiiiice.
  • @cdrive yes, it's happened two or three times in federal cases. So although not yet "common" it sets a precedent for cases in the future for judges to follow. 

    And here's a Slate piece on the implications of Face ID that refers back to Touch ID. I didn't even think of this scenario: 

    "But even if Apple thinks it can be sure it’s you, the phone doesn’t seem to have a way to tell if you’re unlocking it under duress—like, for example, if an abusive partner is forcing you to look at your phone."
    cdriveCretanBullElisa
  • akritenbrinkakritenbrink Lynnwood, WA (Seattle area)
    Oh, did they finally have their magical unveiling? I'm behind on my tech podcasts and was to busy today to internet much.

    I'm not down with the bezel-less hype. don't see the point of having a slick phone if you have to put an Otterbox on it. Hubby has the S7 edge and he hates it because he has to hold it just so or he gives it commands just by holding it. I've been holding on to my LG V10 for a while because it has features that I love but apparently everyone else hated- a sturdy case, rounded metal edges and a rubber back. It is slightly bulkier than some of the slicker phones, but I don't need to put an aftermarket case on it so it comes out ok.
    Be a human, not a machine.

    Angie Kritenbrink
    akritenbrink on most social media

  • I feel like Apple is trying to implement technology that's just not far enough along. This seems like it's going to be very gimmicky at best.
  • As a current Pixel XL holder and longtime android fan, I was really impressed with the iPhone X. However, face unlocking isn't really pushing the envelope. I like the idea of the custom chips in the phone to do advanced machine learning type stuff, but I was REALLY hoping for some sock-knocking augmented reality type functionality.

    Yeah, this and the other iPhones will have some augmented reality capabilities, but you can tell that it still isn't ready for primetime, and barely had a mention in the phone unveiling. 

    At this point I'm just really looking forward to October 4th before I make a decision.
  • As a current Pixel XL holder and longtime android fan, I was really impressed with the iPhone X. However, face unlocking isn't really pushing the envelope. I like the idea of the custom chips in the phone to do advanced machine learning type stuff, but I was REALLY hoping for some sock-knocking augmented reality type functionality.

    Yeah, this and the other iPhones will have some augmented reality capabilities, but you can tell that it still isn't ready for primetime, and barely had a mention in the phone unveiling. 

    At this point I'm just really looking forward to October 4th before I make a decision.

    Not liking this trend of super expensive phones. I'll be looking into the Pixel 2 as I'd like to upgrade my Nexus 5x, which I bought for like $300 couple years ago. The new Pixel is probably gonna be well north of $600 again. I'm going to wait and see what reviews are like for the Moto X4 when it comes out, as it's supposedly going to be cheaper and available for Project Fi and will have no manufacturer bloatware/skins (like the original Moto X line).

    Or maybe I'll just get a used OG Pixel for cheap when the new one drops!

    Elisa
  • I like Apple's products but their marketing has become completely unappealing to me.  They're taking themselves seriously enough for them and me... so I guess I don't need to bother.
    akritenbrinkdarwinfeeshyElisaemnofseattlerealityzealot
  • akritenbrinkakritenbrink Lynnwood, WA (Seattle area)
    I've always had Android phones because way back, I just needed a more affordable phone, and even though now I could afford an iPhone, I don't want to buy into the whole ecosystem, both for practical and philosophical reasons. 

    I have had a variety of phones from LG and Samsung over the years and right now I'm a bit more on the LG side of things, mainly because of the whole Galaxy Note debacle and how Samsung handled it. I really like bigger phones, and I had an earlier Note and was fully intending on upgrading to a Note 7 when they first came out, but then the explosions and recalls happened and I needed something in the interim so I picked up the LG V10. 

    Honestly, after seeing how Samsung handled the whole Note 7 situation,  I am not real confident we can know whether they've resolved the issues that allowed it to happen, so I'm sitting out Samsung for a couple of iterations at least, or maybe forever if LG keeps making phones I like. My LG V10 has a very practical form factor, as I explained before, and it also has a great camera, has been working great for me for a couple years, is paid for (I don't remember how much it was new, but I want to say it was around $400-500), and the only thing I've had to do is replace the battery, which was simple and cheap even buying it directly through LG. It still works great- I have zero performance issues with it after owning it for two years. 
    Be a human, not a machine.

    Angie Kritenbrink
    akritenbrink on most social media

  • I don't understand the reason for the X and the 8. If you get the 8+256gb it's right under 1k. Why not wait 1 month and get the X for a little more. If ur already spending 1000 why not? Is the wait for the people who just have to have something new right away? Are people going to buy the 8+ then a month later get the X? I'm getting the X and am a little bitter tgat I have to wait a extra month lol.
  • Doctor_NickDoctor_Nick Terminus
    edited September 16
    You want the old form factor with touch ID?  I've had my 6 Plus for 3 years now and I'm seriously thinking about a 6s Plus versus an 8 Plus because I enjoy my headphone jack and like to charge at the same time sometimes. Not sure what the X gives to me.  At least now with the wireless charging I can use the lightning adapter dongle and charge at the same time again, I guess.
     

    I don't understand the reason for the X and the 8. If you get the 8+256gb it's right under 1k. Why not wait 1 month and get the X for a little more. If ur already spending 1000 why not? Is the wait for the people who just have to have something new right away? Are people going to buy the 8+ then a month later get the X? I'm getting the X and am a little bitter tgat I have to wait a extra month lol.


  • ElisaElisa Los Angeles
    I love my iPhone 6 Plus :0)
  • I just don't get the appeal of a 1k+ phone.
    Yeah? Well, y'know... that's just like uh... your opinion, man.
  • pavlovsbellpavlovsbell Brooklyn, NY
    I detest the generic design and the stupid notch. My favorite iPhone form factor is the 4/5, so I'm seriously considering the SE. It's a beautiful design, and I don't need the bells & whistles of newer technology. I don't play games or use many apps, and I certainly do not watch shows or movies on my phone because I am not an animal. ;) Besides, I use my iPod Touch to listen to podcasts and music, so my phone actually gets little use.

    I haven't used a case in years except for the leather pouches I use to protect them from scratches if I put them in a handbag.
    Stop pissing in my soup and saying you're cooling it off.
  • Well I mean nowadays you can generally roll the price of your phone into your monthly bill, so maybe its an extra $25ish a month or something for an iphone or new android stuff, and theres no interest either which is nice.

    But shit with this phone, you could be looking at $50 to your bill to pay that back in 2 years which is more then I'm willing to go.

    I have a 6s plus right now, Maybe I'll hold onto yet another year see what apple is doing in 2018.  I'd love an X type of phone by them but not for 1k.
    Elisa
  • mcasale09 said:

    Well I mean nowadays you can generally roll the price of your phone into your monthly bill, so maybe its an extra $25ish a month or something for an iphone or new android stuff, and theres no interest either which is nice.

    But shit with this phone, you could be looking at $50 to your bill to pay that back in 2 years which is more then I'm willing to go.

    I have a 6s plus right now, Maybe I'll hold onto yet another year see what apple is doing in 2018.  I'd love an X type of phone by them but not for 1k.

    Yea $50/mo to finance a phone is crazy. My whole bill for Fi usually comes out to $45-50 a month.

    And another way to put a $1000 phone in perspective, for around $1500 I recently bought a laptop for work, and not just something for checking email and using Word, I do a lot of data management and modeling, so it has a quad core i7 processor, huge battery, a decent graphics card and a 15" screen. I know that some of the tech in the X is fairly cutting edge, but still they're going manufacture a shit ton of them so it's not like there's an economies of scale issue.

  • akritenbrinkakritenbrink Lynnwood, WA (Seattle area)
    None of the tech in the X is cutting edge. I challenge anyone to find something in the X that hasn't been done before. The closest you'll find is something Apple borrowed and rebranded.
    Be a human, not a machine.

    Angie Kritenbrink
    akritenbrink on most social media

  • Doctor_NickDoctor_Nick Terminus
    edited 6:12AM
    The closest you'll find is something Apple borrowed and rebranded elegantly mainstreamed.

    FTFY.  You'd think the phone manufacturers would have figured something out climbing over the dusty remains of Creative and Rio and the rest of the MP3 player market, but this sad refrain remains the same.  
  • akritenbrinkakritenbrink Lynnwood, WA (Seattle area)
    Lol whatever. Drink that Kool aid!
    Be a human, not a machine.

    Angie Kritenbrink
    akritenbrink on most social media

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