The Killing (Netflix) (Formerly AMC) (Spoilers)

akritenbrinkakritenbrink Lynnwood, WA (Seattle area)
So I just binged watched The Killing on Netflix- I feel very conflicted about it! The acting is incredible and Sarah Linden is a really interesting character. But I thought the various plotlines got way out of hand and doubled back on themselves too much. By the end of the time you find out the serial killer was her boss/lover I was like OH HELL NO and I stopped watching it for a couple of days but then I had to go back and finish it. Then I was OH HELL NO at the end when they had that tacked-on last couple of scenes with her and Holder. I think it would have been 1000X better had they just ended it when she drove away from her house on Vashon Island.

Side note: I've lived in Seattle for 13 years and they got a lot right, but there were some kind of jarring things, especially in the first season when they had a Green Lake Mosque in Rainier Valley (two totally separate and very different neighborhoods) and they kept mentioning fast food chains that don't exist here haha. And there was a huge Polish presence in Ballard- But IRL the main ethnic group you identify with old Ballard was Scandinavian. It was like they tried really hard to get Seattle right but only to a certain limit and then they filled in the gaps later. It's also SO noticeable when all the bit players on shows set in Seattle have Canadian accents haha. (I assume this was filmed in Vancouver like so many shows set in Seattle are).


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  • emnofseattleemnofseattle Mason County, Washington USA
    edited March 7
    So I just binged watched The Killing on Netflix- I feel very conflicted about it! The acting is incredible and Sarah Linden is a really interesting character. But I thought the various plotlines got way out of hand and doubled back on themselves too much. By the end of the time you find out the serial killer was her boss/lover I was like OH HELL NO and I stopped watching it for a couple of days but then I had to go back and finish it. Then I was OH HELL NO at the end when they had that tacked-on last couple of scenes with her and Holder. I think it would have been 1000X better had they just ended it when she drove away from her house on Vashon Island.

    Side note: I've lived in Seattle for 13 years and they got a lot right, but there were some kind of jarring things, especially in the first season when they had a Green Lake Mosque in Rainier Valley (two totally separate and very different neighborhoods) and they kept mentioning fast food chains that don't exist here haha. And there was a huge Polish presence in Ballard- But IRL the main ethnic group you identify with old Ballard was Scandinavian. It was like they tried really hard to get Seattle right but only to a certain limit and then they filled in the gaps later. It's also SO noticeable when all the bit players on shows set in Seattle have Canadian accents haha. (I assume this was filmed in Vancouver like so many shows set in Seattle are).


    It was filmed in Vancouver, just wait until season 4 when they’re passing off this San Juan Island looking place as in Seattle. 

    And the scene in Season 3 when they’re hanging the guy was atrocious, one Washington State Conducted two hangings in the 90s, this whole wooden gallow in the show is totally wrong, so these scenes where the corrections guys are puzzled about how to hang someone and the do it wrong it so totally absurd 

    heres KING5 coverage of the last hanging in 1994 which includes a tour of the gallows, https://youtu.be/wMc3JacqfNE

    pretty clinical, nothing like as depicted 

    Linden is far too troubled to be working as a police officer, but what really drove me nuts, like really caused me to say total “BS” was season 2 when they’re trying to track where the mayor went to go a casino and they say “he must have taken the ferry” and then with her hand she traces a route from downtown Seattle to Whidbey Island...

    and yet i stilled watched the whole thing 
  • akritenbrinkakritenbrink Lynnwood, WA (Seattle area)
    edited March 7
    So I just binged watched The Killing on Netflix- I feel very conflicted about it! The acting is incredible and Sarah Linden is a really interesting character. But I thought the various plotlines got way out of hand and doubled back on themselves too much. By the end of the time you find out the serial killer was her boss/lover I was like OH HELL NO and I stopped watching it for a couple of days but then I had to go back and finish it. Then I was OH HELL NO at the end when they had that tacked-on last couple of scenes with her and Holder. I think it would have been 1000X better had they just ended it when she drove away from her house on Vashon Island.

    Side note: I've lived in Seattle for 13 years and they got a lot right, but there were some kind of jarring things, especially in the first season when they had a Green Lake Mosque in Rainier Valley (two totally separate and very different neighborhoods) and they kept mentioning fast food chains that don't exist here haha. And there was a huge Polish presence in Ballard- But IRL the main ethnic group you identify with old Ballard was Scandinavian. It was like they tried really hard to get Seattle right but only to a certain limit and then they filled in the gaps later. It's also SO noticeable when all the bit players on shows set in Seattle have Canadian accents haha. (I assume this was filmed in Vancouver like so many shows set in Seattle are).


    It was filmed in Vancouver, just wait until season 4 when they’re passing off this San Juan Island looking place as in Seattle. 

    And the scene in Season 3 when they’re hanging the guy was atrocious, one Washington State Conducted two hangings in the 90s, this whole wooden gallow in the show is totally wrong, so these scenes where the corrections guys are puzzled about how to hang someone and the do it wrong it so totally absurd 

    Linden is far too troubled to be working as a police officer, but what really drove me nuts, like really caused me to say total “BS” was season 2 when they’re trying to track where the mayor went to go a casino and they say “he must have taken the ferry” and then with her hand she traces a route from downtown Seattle to Whidbey Island...

    and yet i stilled watched the whole thing 
    Oh yeahhhhh that's right!! The ferry to Whidbey Island is in Mukilteo, just a few miles from where I live, so I was very confused haha. They had a different name for Whidbey Island and Deception Pass too, but when they showed it on the map, that's clearly what it was supposed to be. And supposedly he could have gone all the way from Tacoma, to this casino on Whidbey Island, up through Deception pass, then gone down and randomly killed someone in Discovery Park for no apparent reason, and then back to Tacoma in like 5 hours haha. And who goes to a B&B in Tacoma anyway?

    I don't know that much about executions but I found that whole plotline completely confusing as well as compelling. Peter Sarsgaard did such a great job with that crap he was given. I actually thought he was guilty because he did a great job of acting conflicted and guilty when it turns out the only thing he was guilty of was being a bad father? Or something? Which made him stab someone's eye out? confusing haha. 
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    Ah, The Killing. Phenomenal pilot episode, incredible acting (I particularly thought the actor playing the dad was amazing), great first season. Went a bit bonkers in S2, picked up again in S3 (loved the relationship of Holder and the young street kid), completely lost the plot in S4. Not quite a TWD dumpster fire, but what could have been... 

    I totally agree about the ending. Lily and I were mad about that for days after. 
    akritenbrinkPhoebes89
  • akritenbrinkakritenbrink Lynnwood, WA (Seattle area)
    It's just a bit much when everyone has layers and layers of secrets and the sweetest and most innocent guy on the show is a former mob killer lol
    Dee
  • emnofseattleemnofseattle Mason County, Washington USA
    edited March 7
    So I just binged watched The Killing on Netflix- I feel very conflicted about it! The acting is incredible and Sarah Linden is a really interesting character. But I thought the various plotlines got way out of hand and doubled back on themselves too much. By the end of the time you find out the serial killer was her boss/lover I was like OH HELL NO and I stopped watching it for a couple of days but then I had to go back and finish it. Then I was OH HELL NO at the end when they had that tacked-on last couple of scenes with her and Holder. I think it would have been 1000X better had they just ended it when she drove away from her house on Vashon Island.

    Side note: I've lived in Seattle for 13 years and they got a lot right, but there were some kind of jarring things, especially in the first season when they had a Green Lake Mosque in Rainier Valley (two totally separate and very different neighborhoods) and they kept mentioning fast food chains that don't exist here haha. And there was a huge Polish presence in Ballard- But IRL the main ethnic group you identify with old Ballard was Scandinavian. It was like they tried really hard to get Seattle right but only to a certain limit and then they filled in the gaps later. It's also SO noticeable when all the bit players on shows set in Seattle have Canadian accents haha. (I assume this was filmed in Vancouver like so many shows set in Seattle are).


    It was filmed in Vancouver, just wait until season 4 when they’re passing off this San Juan Island looking place as in Seattle. 

    And the scene in Season 3 when they’re hanging the guy was atrocious, one Washington State Conducted two hangings in the 90s, this whole wooden gallow in the show is totally wrong, so these scenes where the corrections guys are puzzled about how to hang someone and the do it wrong it so totally absurd 

    Linden is far too troubled to be working as a police officer, but what really drove me nuts, like really caused me to say total “BS” was season 2 when they’re trying to track where the mayor went to go a casino and they say “he must have taken the ferry” and then with her hand she traces a route from downtown Seattle to Whidbey Island...

    and yet i stilled watched the whole thing 
    Oh yeahhhhh that's right!! The ferry to Whidbey Island is in Mukilteo, just a few miles from where I live, so I was very confused haha. They had a different name for Whidbey Island and Deception Pass too, but when they showed it on the map, that's clearly what it was supposed to be. And supposedly he could have gone all the way from Tacoma, to this casino on Whidbey Island, up through Deception pass, then gone down and randomly killed someone in Discovery Park for no apparent reason, and then back to Tacoma in like 5 hours haha. And who goes to a B&B in Tacoma anyway?

    I don't know that much about executions but I found that whole plotline completely confusing as well as compelling. Peter Sarsgaard did such a great job with that crap he was given. I actually thought he was guilty because he did a great job of acting conflicted and guilty when it turns out the only thing he was guilty of was being a bad father? Or something? Which made him stab someone's eye out? confusing haha. 
    The B&B is clearly in Whistler, that’s nowhere in Tacoma, nowhere in Tacoma looks that nice. NOWHERE!

    I feel the depiction of the Native Americans in the first two seasons is less then flattering to say the least, I can’t even remember how they ended up being involved but it was way too complex to be in cahoots with a campaign for a municipal race for mayor, and of course all the Indian characters were villains, and not even good villains, they’re caricatures and the legal status stuff about the reservations was totally wrong. 

    As far as the hanging, that whole sequence had to have been written in part as an anti death penalty message, literally everything past when he demanded a hanging (which you can do in Washington, at least when Inslee isn’t the governor) is completely wrong.

    Maybe this is why I liked that show, so much is wrong that it’s so easy to nitpick. I actually think it would make great fodder for an MST3K type thing 
  • emnofseattleemnofseattle Mason County, Washington USA
    edited March 7
    It's just a bit much when everyone has layers and layers of secrets and the sweetest and most innocent guy on the show is a former mob killer lol
    Well it’s like the ending of season 2 was no better, because we learn after the whole time that Rosie’s death was an accident, after all this 40 hour episode of law and order like Indian reservation Chick would’ve sold out the mayors goofy campaign guy in a second for having her on the trunk of the car that accidentally ended in the lake, it’s like the whole thing was so implausibly complex for what actually happened 

    Actually scratch that, the car was purposefully put in the lake, I forgot that part, it’s been years since I saw this 

    but still the whole conspiracy element over how this happened it way too complex for how it went down 
  • akritenbrinkakritenbrink Lynnwood, WA (Seattle area)
    It's just a bit much when everyone has layers and layers of secrets and the sweetest and most innocent guy on the show is a former mob killer lol
    Well it’s like the ending of season 2 was no better, because we learn after the whole time that Rosie’s death was an accident, after all this 40 hour episode of law and order like Indian reservation Chick would’ve sold out the mayors goofy campaign guy in a second for having her on the trunk of the car that accidentally ended in the lake, it’s like the whole thing was so implausibly complex for what actually happened 

    Actually scratch that, the car was purposefully put in the lake, I forgot that part, it’s been years since I saw this 

    but still the whole conspiracy element over how this happened it way too complex for how it went down 
    Right. And it was her aunt Terry who pushed her in. Literally the only person you never suspected because that made zero sense lol.
  • akritenbrinkakritenbrink Lynnwood, WA (Seattle area)
    I really still can't figure out why they were in Discovery Park, honestly lol 
  • emnofseattleemnofseattle Mason County, Washington USA
    I really still can't figure out why they were in Discovery Park, honestly lol 
    I don’t know what would possess Jaime to have put her in the trunk, and I can’t imagine the Indian tribal woman and the other guy going along with this. I’ve worked in political campaigns, if my volunteer coordinator called and said “oh hey meet me by the lake in the park at midnight, and remember Rosie she’s getting a little nosy I have her hogtied in the trunk” I’d be all “yeah so... wait WHAT?!” 
  • akritenbrinkakritenbrink Lynnwood, WA (Seattle area)
    I really still can't figure out why they were in Discovery Park, honestly lol 
    I don’t know what would possess Jaime to have put her in the trunk, and I can’t imagine the Indian tribal woman and the other guy going along with this. I’ve worked in political campaigns, if my volunteer coordinator called and said “oh hey meet me by the lake in the park at midnight, and remember Rosie she’s getting a little nosy I have her hogtied in the trunk” I’d be all “yeah so... wait WHAT?!” 
    I think they save those conversations for the most senior aides, lol
  • MrXMrX CO
    edited March 7
    The Killing did have a really good cast and fantastic performances. I think it got caught up trying to be a modern version of Twin Peaks but it did so by emulating the least interesting part of Twin Peaks (with all the "Who Killed Rosie Larsen?" marketing) and they couldn't write themselves out of the plot mess they setup at the end of season 1. I did like that they ditched it and did the Skarsgard season, that was a pretty good character-driven season.

    I guess Netflix enjoyed making season 4 so much they decided to eventually make "The Killing 2349" aka "Altered Carbon" starring the reanimated body of Detective Holder.
    akritenbrinkElisa
  • DrewDrew indianapolis
    I found seasons 1 and 2 of The Killing to be ok, not great, but the performances were so good.  The rest of the series was pretty incredible IMO, except I do agree that the final moments of the last episode were not great.  I think people could skip all of seasons 1/2 and get a pretty tight show with seasons 3-4.
    Elisa
  • MrX said:
    The Killing did have a really good cast and fantastic performances. I think it got caught up trying to be a modern version of Twin Peaks but it did so by emulating the least interesting part of Twin Peaks (with all the "Who Killed Rosie Larsen?" marketing) and they couldn't write themselves out of the plot mess they setup at the end of season 1. I did like that they ditched it and did the Skarsgard season, that was a pretty good character-driven season.

    I guess Netflix enjoyed making season 4 so much they decided to eventually make "The Killing 2349" aka "Altered Carbon" starring the reanimated body of Detective Holder.

    Persoanlly, I think AMC (go figure) has a heavy load to bear for the marketing of the show which left a bad taste in people’s mouths. If we watch the show without the promos, it’s not that bad not finding out who the killer is, when you add the promos they were doing at the time, it feeds the flame of people’s hate. 

    For me i I loved this show. I wasn’t that upset at the end of season 1, but was ready to bolt if they pulled the same nonsense in season 2. I was sad to see this show go, but was thankful for the performances we got out of the actors involved. 
    ElisaMrX
  • akritenbrinkakritenbrink Lynnwood, WA (Seattle area)
    As a binge watcher it didn't really bother me that it took a while to find the killer, other than that EVERYONE had secrets on top of secrets and then who the killer was felt really cheap. 
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