4.10 Winner (Season Finale)

hypergenesb

Written by Thomas Schnauz
Directed by Adam Bernstein & Peter Gould
Cinematography by Marshall Adams
Edited by Chris McCaleb

Fun Facts: This is Adam Bernstein’s 12th episode directing in the Heisenverse (4 Better Call Saul, 8 Breaking Bad). Adam is the only person to direct an episode in each season of the Heisenverse (though, technically he didn’t direct during the back half of Season 5). Vince Gilligan has directed for most of the seasons, except BrBa S2 and the first half of S5. 

hypergenesb

Any predictions for tonight's finale? Werner most def is getting the full measure. And Lalo is going to make his move. But how will Jimmy manage to sabotage his legal career and his relationship with Kim?

NervousRhino

I don’t have any good predictions but I’d love to hear some. I imagine Kim and Nacho are in for a baaad time tonight. It’s probably not going to be good for the Germans either. 

It seems kind of obvious but I’m thinking Kim will be the one to get caught in whatever con they are about to pull next or maybe get busted for her part in the last one?

It could go anywhere, can’t wait! 

adobo1148

I'm seeing a black and white cold open for Kim in this episode of S5 premiere 

Murderbear

My stupid band had to move our stupid band practice to tonight.....grumble grumble. ;-)

Zsa004

This opener is painful to watch (in a good way)

Michael

My satellite took a shit during the opening. What happened?!

Zsa004

Some Chuck and Jimmy interesting flash backs. Sad. 

Michael

Zsa004 said:

Some Chuck and Jimmy interesting flash backs. Sad. 

Thanks. I’ll get the details in the main pod. Just hoped it wasn’t something Gene or main time line related. 

Zsa004

Michael said:

Zsa004 said:

Some Chuck and Jimmy interesting flash backs. Sad. 

Thanks. I’ll get the details in the main pod. Just hoped it wasn’t something Gene or main time line related. 

I’d give more details but not sure if I should share spoilers yet and I wouldn’t do it justice if I tried. I’d say you didn’t miss anything critical to the plot so far though. 

RenaisWomn

I think the remaining Germans must have been liquidated.  It's too risky to let them go home after Werner's hoofed it, especially if his wife is going to be told some story about an accident--an accident they know didn't happen.

Werner may not have pieced that eventuality together in those last moments. I'm sure he was grieving that his last conversation with his wife was so horrible. A tragic, if avoidable, ending.

Michelle

Is there no instant talk pod tonight?

Michael

Michelle said:

Is there no instant talk pod tonight?

Was about to post same question. I know Aaron was out of town for weekend, but don’t remember if he’s be back. 

DrKen

That post-appeal hallway scene was fantastic, tragic, but fantastic.

Vikki12

From the back, Mike looks like one of those hairless cats. I realize this isn’t some profound observation, but I am watching alone and have no one else to share this with at the moment.

hypergenesb

They mentioned last week that there would be no instant talk for the BCS finale due to A.Ron's travel. 

Hunkulese

Pretty lacklustre for a season finale, and they really need to stop making these extra long episodes for no real reason.

Next season should be pretty enjoyable though.

One thing that really irrationally bothers me is when they insert plot holes for no reason. Werner's escape was already bordering on unbelievable, but now we're supposed to believe that he was allowed to keep his driver's license when he wasn't even allowed outside? Seems like a pretty important thing to take away when you don't want someone running away. Then they directly drew our attention to the fact that he had his driver's license by prominently displaying it as the ID used to pick up the money form. Why put that on there at all?

Michael

hypergenesb said:

They mentioned last week that there would be no instant talk for the BCS finale due to A.Ron's travel. 

Must have missed it. I knew no lunch....
But, gotta say. I listened to their empire cast today and happy to hear they are well in the black. But, BCS is likely their biggest pull right now and to miss the finale is weak. I’ll catch an after show now and then, but always look forward to premieres and finalies. 

KingKobra

Hunkulese said:

Pretty lacklustre for a season finale, and they really need to stop making these extra long episodes for no real reason.

Next season should be pretty enjoyable though.

One thing that really irrationally bothers me is when they insert plot holes for no reason. Werner's escape was already bordering on unbelievable, but now we're supposed to believe that he was allowed to keep his driver's license when he wasn't even allowed outside? Seems like a pretty important thing to take away when you don't want someone running away. Then they directly drew our attention to the fact that he had his driver's license by prominently displaying it as the ID used to pick up the money form. Why put that on there at all?

They took their passports m, so they wouldn’t be able to leave the country. The license part is probably “not important” in the long run as we saw Gus has enough connections to find people if he wants to. They’d have to stay contiguous for the most part. 

MichaelVCassidy

Anybody else have a wierd sort of dichotomy with this show where you really like it even though your consistently underwhelmed by the majority of the episodes. I think I just liked Breaking Bad too much and I'm too eager for that type of show and those characters, that I undervalue BCS a bit. The show is both masterfully done and sometimes boring at the same time. I never found Breaking Bad to be boring, ever. 

I thought this was a good finale and this was also my favorite season of Better Call Saul. Yet, I was also somehow disappointed by both the finale and this season. Its wierd and I cant put my finger on why I have these polarizing feelings at the same time. 

I think BCS needs more Gene. I dont think one scene a season is enough. Maybe I'll get my wish and get a full Gene season even, but up until now it would have been nice to see more. 

I think Rhea Seahorn is incredible as Kim and it would be great to find out that she is behind Saul during Breaking Bad. She is too good to lose, much like Aaron Paul was in Breaking Bad.

I also think it would be cool if Jimmy is still really Jimmy during Breaking Bad and Saul Goodman is an act he puts on, but he just happens to fall deeper into the criminal world than he intended and has to really dive into Saul more than he wants too. Like he goes home at night and we see that hes really still Jimmy at heart but hes to far in it and he has to play as saul to survive.

I just dont see Jimmy calling his secretary sugar tits or flippantly suggesting to kill someone. But if deep down he knows hes playing up a character, it feels more plausible to me.

Hunkulese

KingKobra said:

Hunkulese said:

Pretty lacklustre for a season finale, and they really need to stop making these extra long episodes for no real reason.

Next season should be pretty enjoyable though.

One thing that really irrationally bothers me is when they insert plot holes for no reason. Werner's escape was already bordering on unbelievable, but now we're supposed to believe that he was allowed to keep his driver's license when he wasn't even allowed outside? Seems like a pretty important thing to take away when you don't want someone running away. Then they directly drew our attention to the fact that he had his driver's license by prominently displaying it as the ID used to pick up the money form. Why put that on there at all?

They took their passports m, so they wouldn’t be able to leave the country. The license part is probably “not important” in the long run as we saw Gus has enough connections to find people if he wants to. They’d have to stay contiguous for the most part. 

As safe and secure as Mike and Gus are supposed to be, there are zero possible reasons to let them keep their driver's license. Only bad things can happen. The Germans are pretty much getting paid extremely well to spend a year plus in jail. I've never been, but I'm going to assume that the correctional system is smart enough to not let the inmates keep their licenses.

johnnytruant

MichaelVCassidy said:

Anybody else have a wierd sort of dichotomy with this show where you really like it even though your consistently underwhelmed by the majority of the episodes. I think I just liked Breaking Bad too much and I'm too eager for that type of show and those characters, that I undervalue BCS a bit. The show is both masterfully done and sometimes boring at the same time. I never found Breaking Bad to be boring, ever. 

Yea, I know what you mean. I generally find most episodes to be good, but I just have this apathy towards it. I think the fact that they're telling essentially two different stories really throws off the pacing of it all, even though they do an admirable job with it. In the finale, you get this powerful scene with Mike that in another show would have been the climax, but then you have to shift tones to set up an equally powerful scene with Jimmy, but you don't really let that Mike scene resonate.

Doctor_Nick

They introduced the Germans to Gus Fring and know his name.  They know Mike's real name.  They got taken out in Albuquerque and told that's where they were and that's where they had been working.  What about that is a tight ship?

Hunkulese said:

KingKobra said:

Hunkulese said:

Pretty lacklustre for a season finale, and they really need to stop making these extra long episodes for no real reason.

Next season should be pretty enjoyable though.

One thing that really irrationally bothers me is when they insert plot holes for no reason. Werner's escape was already bordering on unbelievable, but now we're supposed to believe that he was allowed to keep his driver's license when he wasn't even allowed outside? Seems like a pretty important thing to take away when you don't want someone running away. Then they directly drew our attention to the fact that he had his driver's license by prominently displaying it as the ID used to pick up the money form. Why put that on there at all?

They took their passports m, so they wouldn’t be able to leave the country. The license part is probably “not important” in the long run as we saw Gus has enough connections to find people if he wants to. They’d have to stay contiguous for the most part. 

As safe and secure as Mike and Gus are supposed to be, there are zero possible reasons to let them keep their driver's license. Only bad things can happen. The Germans are pretty much getting paid extremely well to spend a year plus in jail. I've never been, but I'm going to assume that the correctional system is smart enough to not let the inmates keep their licenses.

psxpaul

This was a disappointing season for me. It was 10 episodes of Jimmy selling cell phones and Mike babysitting some Germans digging a hole. In past seasons there were some good jokes or clever scams, but nothing from this season really sticks out in my mind. The final scene was predicted by some guy on Reddit a week ago, so nothing in this episode really changed my mind.

I was really hoping we'd see a lot of Gene in season 5, but now I'm worried it will mostly be about Kim and Jimmy's breakup.

Teresa from Concord

I love the way things ended with Jimmy and Kim. This is her final straw. And this is his Saul moment. But the one thing I don't understand - why is Lalo following Mike? Lalo is all about Gus and his chicken/drug operation, he sees Gus and team scramble, and then Gus has a quick chat with someone Lalo doesn't even know. And that's who Lalo follows? He doesn't keep tailing Gus? Even trying to explain the scene doesn't make sense.

And this is a great example of my one complaint with this show. Every episode, no matter how great overall, always has one big gaping plot hole. 

But still....I watch.

Hatorian

Man. Great episode. Was really actually sad about the Werner stuff. 

But they nailed the ending. 

“I’ll make sure to live up to the name McGill”

then instantly changes it to goodman is brilliant. Cuz he ain’t living up to shit. 

tonyp1222

BB/BCS is a real masterclass in drama. So good, even when relatively quiet.

Hatorian

Also Mike saying there will be German Lawyers, etc. You know that’s how Saul is going to get hooked back up with Mike/Gus

Anominal

I loved this finale. I was moved by both climaxes and those last looks on Kim’s face definitely ends the brains behind Saul theory.

Mike’s been sloppy this season so I’m curious where they take him from here, but I did like the gum bit, and they successfully made me care about the Mike/Werner dynamic. And Lalo is pretty scary now, and Gus has no choice but to take him out after what happened today. (I also don’t see how any go the Germans and the wife get to live despite what Mike promised.)

I did think Saul was sincere at the end, which just emphasizes how well Odenkirk is at playing all different levels of sincerity. This episode works because of Kim reflecting the the audience doubt through the whole thing, and finally feeling proud for him at the end, only for him to reveal that she’d been scammed as well all the while taking about how perceptive he was while not noticing Kim’s reaction. I’m fully on board with this person being the one to sincerely suggest murder as a possible solution to Walter White’s problem.

Hatorian

No instant take today?

260crisco

I think it’s pretty safe to say that Kim will not be the wizard behind the curtain for Jimmy’s law practice. She looks so defeated when Jimmy asks “can you believe they bought it!?” Kim couldn’t believe that she bought it. I’ll be curious to see if that Mesa Verde branch in Texas backfires in here face ultimately undoing her carrer. What else could be next for Kim?