This is going to be the episode where Jon is trapped in a hotel and he has to sing karaoke?
I *think* it's the one where there's a big explosion at the river he's wading next to and Brienne takes him away in a helicopter. I *could* be wrong though.
Jon V Night King in a one on one sword fight. Please give me this Thrones
They will at some point -- it's probably why they recast the NK with the stuntman for Ser Arthur Dayne. I'm hoping we get several swordsmen vs. the Night King.
Well. That was intense. Have to watch it again before making final decisions. But I don’t think I’m a big fan of Arya saving the day at the last minute like that.
Holy shit. I booked out an hour and a half of "research" time at work to watch. That was super intense, I wish I wore a heart rate monitor. I liked the Arya moments the best, so was Serio Forell the lady melissandre? Or did she send him to her to train her. So many hero moments tonight from everyone, I cant wait to get home and watch it again.
First off. I dont care what anyone says nitpicking through the episode- that was a beautiful ending to a heart pumping, incredible 82 minute episode. Like tears of shock and joy rang through our home when Arya dropped the dagger and stuck it in.
ALL THE LEAKS WERE WRONG, YALL. TAKE THAT LEAKERS.
I was extremely underwhelmed. Maybe my expectations were set too high, but it didn't really deliver on anything. The battle scenes were fine but nothing really special, there weren't really any great character moments, none of the deaths were all that impactful, and yet another battle that's lost until the very end when someone/thing comes out of nowhere to save the day. And Melisandre is heroic all of sudden? At the very end I was thinking maybe they save the episode by having the Night King actually kill Bran and leave or something like that, but no.
I don't think it was a bad 82 minutes or anything, but it didn't come anywhere close to my expectations of some historic memorable episode like we got last week.
I liked it. Had a hard time following it at times. I don't think my TV does blacks well.
Low-key think Ramin Djawadi saved this episode. I was feeling somewhat sceptical, but when the sound drops out and the piano starts going, holy fuck. I didn't care any more, just awesome.
All of that happiness with the episode being stated-
That beginning was the worst battle plan I've ever seen. They planned on the dothraki just riding into a pitch dark horde of zombies (they didnt even know that Mel was going to show up and light their weapons on fire)? Why not have your dragon light up a line through the zombie horde BEFORE they all die, which she did it after they all died in the darkness).
And if that's how Ghost died, I'm going to be pissed. Tactically it's just stupid to have a goddamn wolf charging into a dark zombie horde with a bunch of horses. It's even dumber when you consider that Ghosts teeth and claws arent made of valyrian steel, dragon glass or fire. You're just asking for him to die for no reason.
Narratively it would suck, because we never see him again after he is charging with the Dothraki so they dont get to pull our emotions out over him dying. We don't see a blue eyed version of Ghost later on or anything, and we never will if he's dead.
That will be a horrible mistake by the writers to not even show us that he was killed by bring him back as a wight.
I have a little faith that he will come walking back up to Winterfell in episode 4.
I was extremely underwhelmed. Maybe my expectations were set too high, but it didn't really deliver on anything. The battle scenes were fine but nothing really special, there weren't really any great character moments, none of the deaths were all that impactful, and yet another battle that's lost until the very end when someone/thing comes out of nowhere to save the day. And Melisandre is heroic all of sudden? At the very end I was thinking maybe they save the episode by having the Night King actually kill Bran and leave or something like that, but no.
I don't think it was a bad 82 minutes or anything, but it didn't come anywhere close to my expectations of some historic memorable episode like we got last week.
I came here to type this exact thing, so ummmmm.....what HE or SHE said! I really enjoyed it, but I was underwhelmed too (and yea yea i know the old saying "happiness is based on expectations", but cmon man, this is the last season of GoT baby!). First the positives! 1) Like, duh, Arya. 2) Lyanna goin out like a muthafuckin G! #RIPHousMormont 3) The NK smiling when Dany tried using her tired ass magic trick. 4) The NK using a dead human bridge to take out the fire 5) Some really cool shots (the Dothraki fire going out comes to mind initially).
I think some issues I had were that 1) It was really dark (literally) for me 2) Wasn't the biggest fan of the editing. I think in a big battle sequence you should always keep the viewer focused somewhat on the battle. It's fine to cut away obviously, but I felt like when they cut away it was for a long time. 3) TOO. MANY. FAKEOUT. DEATHS. Seriously. After it was over there didn't feel like there was any REAL loss.
I liked the episode enough but I feel like I've seen better directed battle sequences...on this show. Don't blame me, it's their fault for setting their own bar too high.
I was extremely underwhelmed. Maybe my expectations were set too high, but it didn't really deliver on anything. The battle scenes were fine but nothing really special, there weren't really any great character moments, none of the deaths were all that impactful, and yet another battle that's lost until the very end when someone/thing comes out of nowhere to save the day. And Melisandre is heroic all of sudden? At the very end I was thinking maybe they save the episode by having the Night King actually kill Bran and leave or something like that, but no.
I don't think it was a bad 82 minutes or anything, but it didn't come anywhere close to my expectations of some historic memorable episode like we got last week.
I agree. I’m starting to wonder if anything about this show can really do it for me anymore. I kinda think I’m just ready for it to be over and knowing that it is about to be just means everything ends up underwhelming.
The episode probably had some issues, but I was so stressed out during the whole thing I have not gathered my thoughts to know what they were yet. I’m afraid of dreaming of endless swarms of zombies tonight!
@JaimieT, I am totally joining you in the Sansa/Tyrion ship.
I also think it really hurt that we really didn't know anything at all about the Night King's motivations.
The creators have told us what his motivations are, both in interviews and in the show. We know that he is the embodiment of death, and he used to be one of the First Men many thousands of years ago until the children of the Forest kidnapped him and ritualistically turned him into a WMD bent on destroying humanity.
There's a difference in you not knowing his motivation and you simply not liking what you've been told that his motivations are. Maybe we dont know why he has gone into a long hibernation since the last Long Night, but many writers would argue that we dont need to know that for this story and that it's better to leave that unanswered.
The Arya twist sold the episode for me. Really love that I can still be surprised by this show sometimes. Also hard agree with @johnnytruant that Djawadi carried the episode in some serious places. Overall not the best battle episode for the show, but also not the worst so.....I’ll give it like a solid B, B+. Still going strong Season 8, keep it up.
Boy it was fucking dark during some early parts though. I know it’s thematic but if I literally can’t see what’s happening I can’t feel the suspense as much. Turn on some fucking lights.
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However for me this tracks with pretty much every other battle sequence we’ve seen on Thrones, just larger in scale
ALL THE LEAKS WERE WRONG, YALL. TAKE THAT LEAKERS.
I let out a scream of "Hell Yeah!" about a half dozen times when the Night's King shattered and all of his minions went with him!!
Theon.
And I thought a couple of times that we were going to lose Jaime and Brienne!
What do we say to the God of Death? Arya fucking Stark says "Not today!"
My fucking girl
I was kinda mad about shooting at night in a foggy snowstorm.
Arya gets laid and kills The Night King, best week ever!
I don't think it was a bad 82 minutes or anything, but it didn't come anywhere close to my expectations of some historic memorable episode like we got last week.
Low-key think Ramin Djawadi saved this episode. I was feeling somewhat sceptical, but when the sound drops out and the piano starts going, holy fuck. I didn't care any more, just awesome.
That beginning was the worst battle plan I've ever seen. They planned on the dothraki just riding into a pitch dark horde of zombies (they didnt even know that Mel was going to show up and light their weapons on fire)?
Why not have your dragon light up a line through the zombie horde BEFORE they all die, which she did it after they all died in the darkness).
And if that's how Ghost died, I'm going to be pissed. Tactically it's just stupid to have a goddamn wolf charging into a dark zombie horde with a bunch of horses. It's even dumber when you consider that Ghosts teeth and claws arent made of valyrian steel, dragon glass or fire. You're just asking for him to die for no reason.
Narratively it would suck, because we never see him again after he is charging with the Dothraki so they dont get to pull our emotions out over him dying. We don't see a blue eyed version of Ghost later on or anything, and we never will if he's dead.
That will be a horrible mistake by the writers to not even show us that he was killed by bring him back as a wight.
I have a little faith that he will come walking back up to Winterfell in episode 4.
I think some issues I had were that 1) It was really dark (literally) for me 2) Wasn't the biggest fan of the editing. I think in a big battle sequence you should always keep the viewer focused somewhat on the battle. It's fine to cut away obviously, but I felt like when they cut away it was for a long time. 3) TOO. MANY. FAKEOUT. DEATHS. Seriously. After it was over there didn't feel like there was any REAL loss.
I liked the episode enough but I feel like I've seen better directed battle sequences...on this show. Don't blame me, it's their fault for setting their own bar too high.
Anyway, now the real battle begins in the south.
@JaimieT, I am totally joining you in the Sansa/Tyrion ship.
There's a difference in you not knowing his motivation and you simply not liking what you've been told that his motivations are. Maybe we dont know why he has gone into a long hibernation since the last Long Night, but many writers would argue that we dont need to know that for this story and that it's better to leave that unanswered.