LOL Arya didn't have to run at the speed of light or any faster than any other small athletic person. The shot we see is of the face of a white walker who is 4 feet taller than Arya. Why on earth would we be able to see Arya running past, regardless of the speed she's running?
All it insinuates is that she quickly ran by and is much smaller than a white walker. And unless she's the size and speed of Varys or old man Bobby B, there was no way that they would be able to catch her after they see her half a second later running in front of them. There was no stopping her once she started running and splitting the gap between the White Walkers.
Lord people, they are just trying to make the scene both surprising AND believable based on what we've seen and know, and they accomplished both.
I’m really shocked that this episode is hated so much on here, I’ve just rewatched and it was as good the second time around. Sure the ghost thing is bullshit and perhaps the living were perhaps a bit too overwhelmed at times to feasibly survive but all in all I thought everything tracked well and all of it was deserved pay off to characters arcs.
No it does the opposite to characters arcs. By deciding to use Arya as the twist it makes them irrelevant. Why would the north now follow Danny to Kings landing. She didn't defeat the Night King, a Stark did, and it wasn't John (who still hasn't told the north who he really is) In fact her Dragons are the reason the Night King got thru the wall in the first place and led them to their front door. She is a foreigner who's past family history is not forgotten by the north. They owe her nothing. They have no interest in sitting on the throne. How would Sansa and John now convince the north that you've just been through hell so come and fight again in the next few days for a Queen you don;t care for or have any loyalty too. Danny has now no army and all the time building it, has now made her character weak and borderline wasted.
If they write some bullshit hope story about everybody suddenly going yer lets go straight into another war and heading up to Kings landing and killing Cersi and then everybody lives happily ever after then that's a shit way for a great show to choke on its own arrogance.
Premature reaction having not seen the whole season, be patient
Sorry if this has been discussed but I gotta ask. Everyone keeps saying that the giant that killed Lyanna was Wun Wun. How on earth did Wun Wun die at Winterfell during season 6 at the BOB, then somehow end up beyond the wall as a whight at the beginning of season 7 during Bran's vision? I know he looks like Wun Wun and has one eye but the logistics of it don't make sense. Am I missing something?
Yeah, @All the Chickens is right. It's not Wun-Wun. I am sure they burned him after the Battle of the Bastards. There is no way in hell they didn't. Also, he has a different face. And the wrong eye is missing. I think we've actually seen this giant before. I am pretty sure he was in the scene at the beginng of last season when we see the storm coming and the army marching and the camera zooms all the way into his eye. And I remember people thinking THAT was Wun-Wun then too.
Not to mention we don't know the dynamics of this group. They're not human. Even if they think like humans do, for all they know their fucking creator is immortal. And (also mentioned previously in this thread!) they let Theon run right up to him earlier, and the wights let Theon run right past them. That's clearly a thing.
Watched it on Xbox HBO go and sure it was dark when it was suppose to be but I loved the tension building by being dark. Almost claustrophobic vibes in the darkness. Loved this episode!
The WW reaction shot was in slow motion. She wasn't moving faster than the speed of light.
Agreed. The WW were so fixated on what the king was doing that she could have ran right passed them and all they really saw was something move passed their peripheral
I just wanted to take a moment to recognize how amazing Alfie Allen has been portraying the many faces of Theon. I am so happy that he got to portray him as a bad ass in his final scenes.
That overhead shot of Theon standing alone with all of the dead bodies strewn around him is beautiful.
I just wanted to take a moment to recognize how amazing Alfie Allen has been portraying the many faces of Theon. I am so happy that he got to portray him as a bad ass in his final scenes.
That overhead shot of Theon standing alone with all of the dead bodies strewn around him is beautiful.
He has one of the more interesting arcs in the show. Arguable the most interesting
Sorry if this has been discussed but I gotta ask. Everyone keeps saying that the giant that killed Lyanna was Wun Wun. How on earth did Wun Wun die at Winterfell during season 6 at the BOB, then somehow end up beyond the wall as a whight at the beginning of season 7 during Bran's vision? I know he looks like Wun Wun and has one eye but the logistics of it don't make sense. Am I missing something?
Yeah, @All the Chickens is right. It's not Wun-Wun. I am sure they burned him after the Battle of the Bastards. There is no way in hell they didn't. Also, he has a different face. And the wrong eye is missing. I think we've actually seen this giant before. I am pretty sure he was in the scene at the beginng of last season when we see the storm coming and the army marching and the camera zooms all the way into his eye. And I remember people thinking THAT was Wun-Wun then too.
That's what I thought, when Bran had the vision of them marching at the beginning of season 7. Even then people were like IT'S WUN WUN!!! nope. Ok, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't some key scene I am missing, where Jon and company caravaned Wun Wun north of the wall to be buried in giantsville with the other giants, or some random shit like that. hahaha
I think they certainly set up Arya's skill sets for this, but does her internal planning really matter? This was a Hail Mary! Someone at the top of their game, executing against all odds at the last minute for the upset. You only hate to see it when you're on the losing end.
I get that. I’m just viewing the scene as a Hail Mary from the opposing 1 yard line and the show wants me to believe a ball being thrown 99 yards is possible. That’s just me though.
I think they certainly set up Arya's skill sets for this, but does her internal planning really matter? This was a Hail Mary! Someone at the top of their game, executing against all odds at the last minute for the upset. You only hate to see it when you're on the losing end.
(Yeah this level of criticism is where it starts to feel sexist.)
I feel like it's the opposite. No one here hates that she did it. It's more that this is the kill of the final boss of one of the major plotlines and wish they had done it better for her. Plus the actual amount of criticism could be cut in half if you removed the amount of posts twisting the critcism into something it never was about.
The critcism is along the lines of seeing how great the CGI is for the dragons, and then seeing very awkward way Dany mounted Drogon and flew above Mereen the first time. The effects and the way it was shot just didn't look quite right.
(I think that's the right moment. I believe that was also a majorly criticized moment, including by Jim and A Ron. Unless criticizing those effects is considered sexist too. Then I guess I'm only supporting your theory.)
Dany has had so many more fantastic dragon riding moments after that one. Like they heard the criticism and addressed it. Arya will forever only have this one moment. No killing the Night King again.
I just wanted to take a moment to recognize how amazing Alfie Allen has been portraying the many faces of Theon. I am so happy that he got to portray him as a bad ass in his final scenes.
That overhead shot of Theon standing alone with all of the dead bodies strewn around him is beautiful.
Ya know, I've not really liked Theon since he reunited with his sister the very first time and it was....well it was something. Such a douche. I HATED him for what he did to the Starks and Winterfell and Bran. The endless torture of Theon and then turning into Reek and constantly having these moments of...oh shit. Is that Theon? Nope, it's still Reek. It got old real fast. Especially the torture. Happy he got Sansa out of hell and then I just didn't really give a shit about him anymore.
Pretty much all of the Iron Islands. for that matter, I don't really care about them. It's cool that Yara is a badass but she is weighed down by this shitty brother that sucks. And Euron is tiresome. And not nearly as interesting as I'd hoped he would be considering what he is in the books.
BUT. I had to give it up to Theon. That was a damn fine last stand. And you are right, Alfie Allen played the shit out of that role.
Sorry if this has been discussed but I gotta ask. Everyone keeps saying that the giant that killed Lyanna was Wun Wun. How on earth did Wun Wun die at Winterfell during season 6 at the BOB, then somehow end up beyond the wall as a whight at the beginning of season 7 during Bran's vision? I know he looks like Wun Wun and has one eye but the logistics of it don't make sense. Am I missing something?
You aren't missing anything.They're wrong. Plain and simple.
It's a different one-eyed giant (which is weird). They burned Wun Wun (or they said they would). Why they would make two one-eyed giants??? Ask Bran...
LOL Arya didn't have to run at the speed of light or any faster than any other small athletic person. The shot we see is of the face of a white walker who is 4 feet taller than Arya. Why on earth would we be able to see Arya running past, regardless of the speed she's running?
All it insinuates is that she quickly ran by and is much smaller than a white walker. And unless she's the size and speed of Varys or old man Bobby B, there was no way that they would be able to catch her after they see her half a second later running in front of them. There was no stopping her once she started running and splitting the gap between the White Walkers.
Lord people, they are just trying to make the scene both surprising AND believable based on what we've seen and know, and they accomplished both.
“All it insinuates is that she quickly ran by and is much smaller than a white walker.”
- Where is she coming from though? Secret tunnel? I could get her sneaking past a couple of whites but we don’t know the starting point of her run.
“There was no stopping her once she started running and splitting the gap between the White Walkers.”
What gap are you talking about? Arya came from the left side and the Night King was surrounded by the army of the dead. And his lieutenants were directly behind him.
One last thing with the Arya scene, not only did I think it was well done and made sense, I think every bit of it was tactically thought out by her. Because in that second when she is lunging at him, dagger raised and screaming at him, I thought, what are you doing?? Why are you yelling? But I think it was a calculated risk on her part to get him to reach his arm up to grab her and thus stretching his armor and exposing his sweet sweet chest meat.
Agreed. You "see" her silently pass the White Walkers; the one Walker instinctively moves his head in her wake. Screaming is only disadvantageous, and she's not that stupid. So I think she wanted him to underestimate her, and then she improvised after that. Earlier in this thread someone mentioned screaming got him to turn around.
She looks like a child. He didn't see it coming.
I noticed last episode she was also playing that lying game with Gendry, asking him how many women he'd slept with. A reminder her intuition is keen when she wants it to be.
“Agreed. You "see" her silently pass the White Walkers; the one Walker instinctively moves his head in her wake.”
We’ve never seen Arya do this before or seen faceless men run faster than the speed of light which seems to be insinuated her. She’s so fast that she can’t be seen. If this was the case than she should be using this tactic a lot more.
“Screaming is only disadvantageous, and she's not that stupid. So I think she wanted him to underestimate her, and then she improvised after that. Earlier in this thread someone mentioned screaming got him to turn around.”
Her screaming was extremely stupid. If she didn’t she could have just daggered without him turning around. Instead, her screaming put her at the mercy of the Night King and him holding her in the perfect position for her dagger move.
Jaqen H'ghar moves pretty fast when he grants Arya the deaths after they meet. We just saw Arya elude the wights after the blood dropped. She was able to elude and bait the Waif, who is another assassin bent on killing her. She was quick enough to get Brienne to a standstill. Why do we think she wouldn't be quick enough to get past a few distracted Walkers who are focused on Bran? We even saw Arya flip the dagger when she was sparring with Brienne.
I honestly think people are calling BS because of editing, and not bc of what actually happened? I can buy people like not liking the editing, but they clearly laid the groundwork for Arya to be able to pull it off.
I think they certainly set up Arya's skill sets for this, but does her internal planning really matter? This was a Hail Mary! Someone at the top of their game, executing against all odds at the last minute for the upset. You only hate to see it when you're on the losing end.
I get that. I’m just viewing the scene as a Hail Mary from the opposing 1 yard line and the show wants me to believe a ball being thrown 99 yards is possible. That’s just me though.
Is that more or less possible than a woman walking into a burning pyre with three eggs and coming out unburnt with three dragons after having just performed blood magic. Or is it more or less possible than Jon dodging endless raining arrows during BotB
Speaking of Theon. I agree I liked everything done with him except for the end. I felt for him a while back and I really don't like how he simply charged straight to die. He was such a bad ass with everything up until that point. You're right that the overhead shot of him alone was great. And they had been showing him to be such a competant fighter up to that point. But then it's like Bran thanked him and he lost all his skills and everything he had gained. I wanted to see him at least reasonably try to hurt the Night King instead of the dumb charge. They could have shown he was outmatched in a way that didn't make him look like such a bad fighter.
LOL Arya didn't have to run at the speed of light or any faster than any other small athletic person. The shot we see is of the face of a white walker who is 4 feet taller than Arya. Why on earth would we be able to see Arya running past, regardless of the speed she's running?
All it insinuates is that she quickly ran by and is much smaller than a white walker. And unless she's the size and speed of Varys or old man Bobby B, there was no way that they would be able to catch her after they see her half a second later running in front of them. There was no stopping her once she started running and splitting the gap between the White Walkers.
Lord people, they are just trying to make the scene both surprising AND believable based on what we've seen and know, and they accomplished both.
“All it insinuates is that she quickly ran by and is much smaller than a white walker.”
- Where is she coming from though? Secret tunnel? I could get her sneaking past a couple of whites but we don’t know the starting point of her run.
“There was no stopping her once she started running and splitting the gap between the White Walkers.”
What gap are you talking about? Arya came from the left side and the Night King was surrounded by the army of the dead. And his lieutenants were directly behind him.
She came in from behind him. The camera is facing him and she comes in directly behind him. It looks to me she came into the garden the exact same way he did. She runs right by one of the WW who were straight behind the NK.
Speaking of Theon. I agree I liked everything done with him except for the end. I felt for him a while back and I really don't like how he simply charged straight to die. He was such a bad ass. You're right that the overhead shot of him alone was great. And they had been showing him to be such a competant fighter up to that point. But then it's like Bran thanked him and he lost all his skills and everything he had gained. I wanted to see him at least reasonably try to hurt the Night King instead of the dumb charge. They could have shown he was outmatched in a way that didn't make him look like such a bad fighter.
I agree the charge was kind of goofy. He wasn't going to make it out alive of that Godswood alive though. It's like the Dothrakis. Do we stand here and die or do we try and give it one last go? Might as well go for it.
@Anominal Look, no one ever convinced anyone else they were being sexist on the internet. Or at least not the 99.9% of cases. As with racism, the brain tells itself it's actually concerned about concrete details. And sexism doesn't often mean "I dislike women" or "I'd rather see a man succeed." And it definitely can't be proven from the outside. I just think it's a good explanation for why, for instance, no one is upset that Jon Snow survived his confrontation with the NK despite being surrounded by wights. We women see sexism enough that we believe we intuit correctly that if Jon Snow had Jon Snow'd the NK to death there would be far less complaining going on. (And I use his name as a verb, because obviously it wouldn't have gone down like Arya'ing, but it would have still involved a great deal of improbability.) I'm not saying there would be no complaining, I'm saying there would be less. I think something else is fueling this besides mere fandom. Obviously you don't.
LOL Arya didn't have to run at the speed of light or any faster than any other small athletic person. The shot we see is of the face of a white walker who is 4 feet taller than Arya. Why on earth would we be able to see Arya running past, regardless of the speed she's running?
All it insinuates is that she quickly ran by and is much smaller than a white walker. And unless she's the size and speed of Varys or old man Bobby B, there was no way that they would be able to catch her after they see her half a second later running in front of them. There was no stopping her once she started running and splitting the gap between the White Walkers.
Lord people, they are just trying to make the scene both surprising AND believable based on what we've seen and know, and they accomplished both.
“All it insinuates is that she quickly ran by and is much smaller than a white walker.”
- Where is she coming from though? Secret tunnel? I could get her sneaking past a couple of whites but we don’t know the starting point of her run.
“There was no stopping her once she started running and splitting the gap between the White Walkers.”
What gap are you talking about? Arya came from the left side and the Night King was surrounded by the army of the dead. And his lieutenants were directly behind him.
The White Walkers and wights split their ranks to allow the Night King to pass through them and never closed ranks back up as far as we are aware. And all of them were facing forward towards Bran and away from anyone who would enter the Godswoods. Why does it matter how she got into the Godswoods? It's an easily accessible place if your starting point is within Winterfell.
@Anominal Look, no one ever convinced anyone else they were being sexist on the internet. Or at least not the 99.9% of cases. As with racism, the brain tells itself it's actually concerned about concrete details. And sexism doesn't often mean "I dislike women" or "I'd rather see a man succeed." And it definitely can't be proven from the outside. I just think it's a good explanation for why, for instance, no one is upset that Jon Snow survived his confrontation with the NK despite being surrounded by wights. We women see sexism enough that we believe we intuit correctly that if Jon Snow had Jon Snow'd the NK to death there would be far less complaining going on. (And I use his name as a verb, because obviously it wouldn't have gone down like Arya'ing, but it would have still involved a great deal of improbability.) I'm not saying there would be no complaining, I'm saying there would be less. I think something else is fueling this besides mere fandom. Obviously you don't.
People are upset at that! In my very first post I mentioned how they should all be dead. How Theon' s charge didn't do him justice. There are a bunch of posts talking about how ridiculous it was to show all the named faces in such peril for so long and have them live. How Sam seemed to die twelve times. How Beric magically got into the room after having a great death in the hallway. How it was hard to even tell who was in real danger because the show kept walking back how surrounded or not they were with no reason shown. About the insane amounts of plot armor they had. How the whole episode was sloppy because the editing and staging of those scenes were also done badly.
The reason why there are so many Arya posts is that it's the only point of all those that is both getting misinterpreted and the only one that's constantly saying we're stupid and or sexist for feeling that it was done wrong. The only other arguments that got any attention were the battle tactics.
I'm still trying to get the gripes. It reads like: 1. Ghost died off screen!!!! WTF??? 2. Ghost is alive??? That makes no sense!! WTF??
If Ghost hadn't appeared, it would have been a WTF from someone? Ghost appears for 2 minutes, and it's a WTF? If Ghost had gotten killed in a big death scene, it would have cut time from something else.
@Anominal No, saying "You're intuiting sexism because X because you're calling us sexist" is not gonna work with me. The woke thing to do is to say, Hey, certainly she has a great deal more experience noticing sexism than I do and maybe she sees something I've missed, and then agree to disagree, or leave it be. Certainly not to suggest that I might interpret a CGI complaint as sexist.
I just wanted to take a moment to recognize how amazing Alfie Allen has been portraying the many faces of Theon. I am so happy that he got to portray him as a bad ass in his final scenes.
That overhead shot of Theon standing alone with all of the dead bodies strewn around him is beautiful.
Well said. Yes he did incredible. Bran’s send off line was beautiful..
@Anominal No, saying "You're intuiting sexism because X because you're calling us sexist" is not gonna work with me. The woke thing to do is to say, Hey, certainly she has a great deal more experience noticing sexism than I do and maybe she sees something I've missed, and then agree to disagree, or leave it be. Certainly not to suggest that I might interpret a CGI complaint as sexist.
I agree that line from me was out of line. I hesitated while writing it and wrongly went ahead and wrote it anyway.
But now I feel like you're just completely ignoring my whole entire last post. Exactly what my post was about. Most of the episode was very sloppily put together, with a few stand out moments like the Mellisandre stuff and Dragon air battle. But it's only the Arya complaints that get addressed.
@Anominal No, saying "You're intuiting sexism because X because you're calling us sexist" is not gonna work with me. The woke thing to do is to say, Hey, certainly she has a great deal more experience noticing sexism than I do and maybe she sees something I've missed, and then agree to disagree, or leave it be. Certainly not to suggest that I might interpret a CGI complaint as sexist.
I agree that line from me was out of line. I hesitated while writing it and wrongly went ahead and wrote it anyway.
But now I feel like you're just completely ignoring my whole entire last post. Exactly what my post was about. Most of the episode was very sloppily put together, with a few stand out moments like the Mellisandre stuff and Dragon air battle. But it's only the Arya complaints that get addressed.
I ignored it because I thought it was something we weren't gonna agree about, but your last sentence made me see your point (I think). I wasn't getting that point until now. All I can say right now is that's certainly food for thought. I will think about it.
I'm still trying to get the gripes. It reads like: 1. Ghost died off screen!!!! WTF??? 2. Ghost is alive??? That makes no sense!! WTF??
If Ghost hadn't appeared, it would have been a WTF from someone? Ghost appears for 2 minutes, and it's a WTF? If Ghost had gotten killed in a big death scene, it would have cut time from something else.
Thank god that kill scene was slowed because we had a fraction of a second to register things: WW hair flutters, oh sh---, and as Arya comes into view, in the back of my mind I remember they all have a Hive Mind, the NK has all their eyes. So he turns just in time.
And THEN, when he's holding her aloft, I watch her face, her eyes staring at him, and the knife drops and she doesn't look away, Syrio would be so proud!..when he taught her that her eyes would betray where she would strike.
Bran did his bit as well; the NK sensed something in that last look that passed between them but Bran betrayed nothing.
I do know that all those forces outside the trench were on the verge of being swamped until Dany strafed the first time...it was good to see the "dragons saved our asses" look on Jaime's face looking up. Also, Dany ex machina for Jon after he was surrounded by the raised wights. I think some people missed her coming in those times, by the complaints.
Also, the fucking Dance of Dragons. Please watch it slowed down if you can, it was BRUTAL and horrifyingly real for CGI. Rhaegal is seriously injured and Jon had more than a few close calls with Viserion. Watching Drogon land and on Viserion and dig his claws and jaws into him, in mid-air at the end, just unforgettable.
As far as survivors at the very end, Jon passed through the outer courtyard and watched the best fighters holding their own (I think Sam has some soul searching to do for running away from Edd's killer who was just standing there...and Now he can run fast??), and the crazed Viserion blocking the Godswood. Winterfell is huge though; likely there were many other similar scenes playing out, inside and out.
One last thing about Jorah. Saying "I'm hurt" at the end, as if he refuses to believe he can't keep protecting her, that it's over and he really has to leave her, it was just perfect.
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All it insinuates is that she quickly ran by and is much smaller than a white walker. And unless she's the size and speed of Varys or old man Bobby B, there was no way that they would be able to catch her after they see her half a second later running in front of them. There was no stopping her once she started running and splitting the gap between the White Walkers.
Lord people, they are just trying to make the scene both surprising AND believable based on what we've seen and know, and they accomplished both.
That overhead shot of Theon standing alone with all of the dead bodies strewn around him is beautiful.
Ok, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't some key scene I am missing, where Jon and company caravaned Wun Wun north of the wall to be buried in giantsville with the other giants, or some random shit like that. hahaha
The critcism is along the lines of seeing how great the CGI is for the dragons, and then seeing very awkward way Dany mounted Drogon and flew above Mereen the first time. The effects and the way it was shot just didn't look quite right.
(I think that's the right moment. I believe that was also a majorly criticized moment, including by Jim and A Ron. Unless criticizing those effects is considered sexist too. Then I guess I'm only supporting your theory.)
Dany has had so many more fantastic dragon riding moments after that one. Like they heard the criticism and addressed it. Arya will forever only have this one moment. No killing the Night King again.
Pretty much all of the Iron Islands. for that matter, I don't really care about them. It's cool that Yara is a badass but she is weighed down by this shitty brother that sucks. And Euron is tiresome. And not nearly as interesting as I'd hoped he would be considering what he is in the books.
BUT. I had to give it up to Theon. That was a damn fine last stand. And you are right, Alfie Allen played the shit out of that role.
- Where is she coming from though? Secret tunnel? I could get her sneaking past a couple of whites but we don’t know the starting point of her run.
“There was no stopping her once she started running and splitting the gap between the White Walkers.”
What gap are you talking about? Arya came from the left side and the Night King was surrounded by the army of the dead. And his lieutenants were directly behind him.
Jaqen H'ghar moves pretty fast when he grants Arya the deaths after they meet. We just saw Arya elude the wights after the blood dropped. She was able to elude and bait the Waif, who is another assassin bent on killing her. She was quick enough to get Brienne to a standstill. Why do we think she wouldn't be quick enough to get past a few distracted Walkers who are focused on Bran? We even saw Arya flip the dagger when she was sparring with Brienne.
I honestly think people are calling BS because of editing, and not bc of what actually happened? I can buy people like not liking the editing, but they clearly laid the groundwork for Arya to be able to pull it off.
The reason why there are so many Arya posts is that it's the only point of all those that is both getting misinterpreted and the only one that's constantly saying we're stupid and or sexist for feeling that it was done wrong. The only other arguments that got any attention were the battle tactics.
I'm still trying to get the gripes. It reads like:
1. Ghost died off screen!!!! WTF???
2. Ghost is alive??? That makes no sense!! WTF??
If Ghost hadn't appeared, it would have been a WTF from someone? Ghost appears for 2 minutes, and it's a WTF? If Ghost had gotten killed in a big death scene, it would have cut time from something else.
But now I feel like you're just completely ignoring my whole entire last post. Exactly what my post was about. Most of the episode was very sloppily put together, with a few stand out moments like the Mellisandre stuff and Dragon air battle. But it's only the Arya complaints that get addressed.
I ignored it because I thought it was something we weren't gonna agree about, but your last sentence made me see your point (I think). I wasn't getting that point until now. All I can say right now is that's certainly food for thought. I will think about it.
And THEN, when he's holding her aloft, I watch her face, her eyes staring at him, and the knife drops and she doesn't look away, Syrio would be so proud!..when he taught her that her eyes would betray where she would strike.
Bran did his bit as well; the NK sensed something in that last look that passed between them but Bran betrayed nothing.
I do know that all those forces outside the trench were on the verge of being swamped until Dany strafed the first time...it was good to see the "dragons saved our asses" look on Jaime's face looking up. Also, Dany ex machina for Jon after he was surrounded by the raised wights. I think some people missed her coming in those times, by the complaints.
Also, the fucking Dance of Dragons. Please watch it slowed down if you can, it was BRUTAL and horrifyingly real for CGI. Rhaegal is seriously injured and Jon had more than a few close calls with Viserion. Watching Drogon land and on Viserion and dig his claws and jaws into him, in mid-air at the end, just unforgettable.
As far as survivors at the very end, Jon passed through the outer courtyard and watched the best fighters holding their own (I think Sam has some soul searching to do for running away from Edd's killer who was just standing there...and Now he can run fast??), and the crazed Viserion blocking the Godswood. Winterfell is huge though; likely there were many other similar scenes playing out, inside and out.
One last thing about Jorah. Saying "I'm hurt" at the end, as if he refuses to believe he can't keep protecting her, that it's over and he really has to leave her, it was just perfect.