Star Trek: Picard

ChinaskiChinaski Santa Cruz, CA
think this deserves it's own dedicated thread:


Frakkin TSanguinePenguin
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  • AnominalAnominal San Francisco Bay Area
    Cool. So am I getting this right that even the "15 years ago today" is also after the events of (present time) final episode of Next Generation?

    I like what's been done with Discovery. I have more faith in future Star Trek projects than I have in future Star Wars projects. I'm looking forward to this.
    FlukesSanguinePenguin
  • Frakkin TFrakkin T Currently Offline
    Anominal said:
    Cool. So am I getting this right that even the "15 years ago today" is also after the events of (present time) final episode of Next Generation?


    That's how I took it--the voice says he commanded a rescue armada and I don't remember that ever happening in TNG or the films. This is going to be excellent; maybe Stewart's presence will win over some of the fans who were down on DSC.
  • JaimieTJaimieT Atlanta, GA
    God damn it, FUCK FUCK
  • JaimieTJaimieT Atlanta, GA
    All Good Things winery porn FUCK
  • JaimieTJaimieT Atlanta, GA
    edited May 23
    "Sorry this didn't match up to your fan fiction" - I have published 60K words of Picard fan fiction. I shouldn't watch this.
  • FlukesFlukes Calgary, Canada
    Great teaser. Call me easy-to-please, but I'm pleased. 
  • JaimieTJaimieT Atlanta, GA
    edited May 23
    But my actual thought is: We've endured so much "subvert their expectations" bullshit lately, we fans of fantasy & sci-fi, that it's enormously refreshing for them to do the most obvious thing instead of avoiding it. The winery is something that most people in the fan fiction community go to, and it's something that even casual fans of the show might have guessed. ("All Good Things..." being the obvious reason.) Also the angle where Picard quits Starfleet is obvious to me, and done a lot in the fan fiction community, because Picard is so principled you know quitting something as essential to his identity as Starfleet has got to entail a good story. With Picard, it's not going to be "I'm tired."

    It's almost as if this might be good.

    PS. Did you know Star Trek started fan fiction? 

    Edit: Gross, there are fucking 9 producers on this show and most of them are Disco writers #notholdingmybreath
    Darmock&Jalad@Tenagra
  • FlukesFlukes Calgary, Canada
    I like Disco. I'm pretty confident I'll like this too. 
    Anominal
  • JaimieTJaimieT Atlanta, GA
    Based on Michael Piller's account of the writing of Insurrection (highly recommend), I've observed Patrick Stewart can be a little imperious. He also got tired of stories that gave Picard some kind of past struggle to deal with. Which is why we started getting Action Star Picard in the films. Judging by the writing on Disco, and by Patrick Stewart's inclinations, I doubt the reason Picard quit Starfleet has anything to do with an internal struggle. This is going to be an action show, I predict. More Nemesis. Unless Patrick Stewart has had a change of heart somehow.

    Really wish they could have got Ronald D. Moore and Ira Steven Behr in for this. The lack of TNG alums in pre-production is disappointing.
    Flukessassyfontaine
  • FlukesFlukes Calgary, Canada
    edited May 23
    JaimieT said:
    Based on Michael Piller's account of the writing of Insurrection (highly recommend), I've observed Patrick Stewart can be a little imperious. He also got tired of stories that gave Picard some kind of past struggle to deal with. Which is why we started getting Action Star Picard in the films. Judging by the writing on Disco, and by Patrick Stewart's inclinations, I doubt the reason Picard quit Starfleet has anything to do with an internal struggle. This is going to be an action show, I predict. More Nemesis. Unless Patrick Stewart has had a change of heart somehow.

    Really wish they could have got Ronald D. Moore and Ira Steven Behr in for this. The lack of TNG alums in pre-production is disappointing.
    I follow your logic here. I do, however, remember reading this article from earlier in the month: https://io9.gizmodo.com/star-treks-picard-series-will-be-a-psychological-look-a-1834668952

    It doesn't sound like an action-heavy show based on Kurtzman's description ("It will be slower, more meditative") but who knows, maybe that's just how he pronounces "gritty". :D

    I don't know if this is an indication that Sir Patrick's had a change of heart, but I do have (misplaced?) faith that the core is interesting and artistically fulfilling or he wouldn't be doing it.

    Or maybe he just wants to buy an RL vineyard.

    Edit: I'm also a little dissappointed there doesn't seem to be more TNG staffers and crew involved. At least we have The Orville for that.
    JaimieT
  • redlancerredlancer Seattle
    I had no faith In Discovery to be anything other than an unmitigated disaster. Previous to the show's airing as well as each season so far has seen more behind-the-scenes drama than most productions could possibly endure. 

    And despite all that I have to begrudgingly admit that it's kind of a fun show and look forward to new episodes. I'll put ST:Picard in the "shows that likely have no right to be good but I could be pleasantly surprised" camp

    They can't get any TNG folks, they're all over working on The Orville ...  :)



     
  • JaimieTJaimieT Atlanta, GA
    edited May 24
    redlancer said:
    I had no faith In Discovery to be anything other than an unmitigated disaster. Previous to the show's airing as well as each season so far has seen more behind-the-scenes drama than most productions could possibly endure. 

    And despite all that I have to begrudgingly admit that it's kind of a fun show and look forward to new episodes. I'll put ST:Picard in the "shows that likely have no right to be good but I could be pleasantly surprised" camp

    They can't get any TNG folks, they're all over working on The Orville ...  :)



     

    And Outlander. What a waste.  :'(

    I think the only Star Trek alum in pre-production at The Orville is Brannon Braga, but hey, that's huge! He wrote "Nothing Left on Earth Excepting Fishes" which I really enjoyed. Also "Into the Fold" (really good character development there) and the first Kaylon/Borg episode.
  • MrXMrX CO
    edited June 27
    Interesting - Michael Chabon is going to be the show runner. Had previously been announced that he was going to be in the writers room but this an entirely different beast. I don't think he's ever done something comparable to running a show so ... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/michael-chabon-run-star-trek-picard-cbs-all-access-1221431
  • JaimieTJaimieT Atlanta, GA
    Holy shit, what a fucking fantastic development. Yes, let's get a Pulitzer winning novelist in there, who knows character development, to man the team who can write TV shows but not very well. 

    This might be the best Star Trek news since the 90s.
    sassyfontaine
  • I've read and liked several books by Michael Chabon but his style seems like an awfully odd choice for Star Trek. Between this and Quentin Tarantino writing a Star Trek movie I have no idea what Trek is anymore.
    sassyfontaine
  • JaimieTJaimieT Atlanta, GA
    CapeGabe said:
    I've read and liked several books by Michael Chabon but his style seems like an awfully odd choice for Star Trek. Between this and Quentin Tarantino writing a Star Trek movie I have no idea what Trek is anymore.

    Respectfully we have no idea what his TV style is. Novels don't compare stylistically. I've written and studied writing for both screenplays and novels, and you make many choices to play up the advantages that novels have over a visual medium. 

    Quentin Tarantino though, sure.
    FlukesCapeGabe
  • MrXMrX CO
    edited July 10
    Looks like Jean-Luc has a very good boy/girl in this show! They even have a Starfleet dog-tag!


    DrCynPizCoryCecilysassyfontaine
  • ChinaskiChinaski Santa Cruz, CA
    SDCC Trailer:


  • JaimieTJaimieT Atlanta, GA
    edited July 20
    So... I was calling the Borg thing. Like she's a future Borg queen or something Borg, since her connection to him. Then they showed the Borg cube and I held out my hand and nodded, like you do.

    Then I saw Jeri Ryan and I literally screamed.

    Have I ever screamed during a trailer for anything? I can't remember. Who screams? And I wasn't planning on "having a reaction" or thinking any longer about it than its time stamp... it just happened.

    Happy about Brent too. 
    MrXFlukesrkcrawf
  • JaimieTJaimieT Atlanta, GA
    I'm on board now.

    Q is a matter of time.
    MrX
  • They also announced that the actor who portrayed the Borg Hugh is going to be in this series, so they are going deep in the Picard-Borg mythology, and I'm here for it.
    FreddyJaimieTFlukes
  • JaimieT said:
    I'm on board now.

    Q is a matter of time.

    Was hoping for a surprise John de Lancie appearance. Maybe they are holding that close to the vest.
    JaimieTFlukes
  • FreddyFreddy Denton, Texas
    MrX said:
    They also announced that the actor who portrayed the Borg Hugh is going to be in this series, so they are going deep in the Picard-Borg mythology, and I'm here for it.
    Awesome. I had no intention of watching this, but the Borg is my favorite villain in pretty much anything. I may even get the stupid CBS pass.
  • Also: with Hugh being brought back I'd bet there is a good chance that Lore is gonna be in this show.
    JaimieT
  • And apparently Frakes is back both as Riker and to direct some episodes! https://io9.gizmodo.com/in-the-first-full-trailer-for-star-trek-picard-jean-l-1836393349

    As a very casual trek fan (I've watched all of TNG and not much else) this looks interesting to me, although whether it's interesting enough to subscribe to yet another streaming service, well, we'll see. 
  • DrKenDrKen Chicago
    MrX said:
    JaimieT said:
    I'm on board now.

    Q is a matter of time.

    Was hoping for a surprise John de Lancie appearance. Maybe they are holding that close to the vest.
    One of the 6 Short Treks is a Picard series preview.  They didn't say which - but one of them is titled "Q&A".

    This series looks fantastic.
  • STTNG has been out of my mind for a decade or more...

    When Double A-Ron discussed on LWJA that he'd been going back and watching STTNG again, I started back at Farpoint.  Probably my 3rd/4th time through the full series and as many as 9 or 10 watches on some key episodes. 

    As a form of self-imposed reminiscence therapy, watching STTNG again and playing Mario 64, I'm starting to realize just how formative Captain Picard's character was to my teenaged self in terms of building up my morality center and my approaches to conflict resolution in social settings.

    They.. really.. have to get this right.

    One of my biggest concerns is (spoilery speculation)

    ..that Kurtzman is just using the character of Picard as bait and switch to introduce us to a crew of young, hip, underwear models inhabiting a host of characters that spend Season 2 and beyond in a ship named "Picard" after a Season 1 Generations-Style sacrifice.

    ... that would seriously inhibit my ability to pay for CBS anything ever again..  

    Please be good, please be good, please be good...
  • JaimieTJaimieT Atlanta, GA
    @visi0n ;

    I'm positive that's what's happening, what you said in your spoiler area. Notice how much time they spent showing the random special girl who was doing actiony stuff? And what you said about the name. I've cooled off on all of this. And about 10 people want to chide me for not being optimistic.

    But we'll always have TNG.
    visi0n
  • edited November 7
    JaimieT said:
    @visi0n ;

    I'm positive that's what's happening, what you said in your spoiler area. Notice how much time they spent showing the random special girl who was doing actiony stuff? And what you said about the name. I've cooled off on all of this. And about 10 people want to chide me for not being optimistic.

    But we'll always have TNG.
    Yep.. and showing the new tron-effect ship controls on the Defiant++ ship.  Ugh.

    On character torch passing..
    <sarcasm>  ..b/c this strategy has worked out so well for Star Wars</sarcasm>

    I hope we are wrong but yeah It's probably going to a Disco tie in somehow as well.  You are right though, I guess TNG stands for time no matter what they do here so I'll watch it and I'm sure Stewart will bring it performance-wise.

    JaimieT
  • DrKenDrKen Chicago
    I just want to see Admiral (Ensign) Ro.
    visi0n
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