Woman's World Cup 2019

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  • cdrivecdrive Houston, TX
    Wowwww.  They busted out Crime Mob Rock Yo Hips.  The exact amount of Fs in these girls' possession: 0


    MrXtom_g
  • HunkuleseHunkulese Québec, Canada
    I'm really put off by how clueless the Americans seem to be about why people are criticizing them. You can't just refute every criticism by saying that it wouldn't happen if they were men. Celebrating big goals on a big stage is definitely 100% okay. When it's not okay is when you're trying to purposely show up the other team. Who knows what her intentions were, but there's no way Alex Morgan is that ignorant that she can't see why some people would think that pretending to sip tea against England might seem like she's showing them up.

    When men do things like this, they're equally blasted by the media. Remember when Terell Owens thought it was a good idea to celebrate on the Dallas star?

    From my point of view, I don't care at all and think it's silly. It just bugs me how much they're trying to turn it into a sexism thing.
  • amyja89amyja89 Oxford, England
    edited July 5
    I’ve been a football fan long enough to know that if England women were the dominant team in the world, I’d be loving every second of the antics. At the end of the day it’s just banter.

    The American ladies team are basically just the Patriots. Everyone who supports them has a lovely time, everyone else hates them mostly for their success, and then sometimes a little bit for their (earned) arrogance. That’s just the way the cookie crumbles.

    In my opinion it’s not that people don’t realise why the hate is there, it’s just that they don’t care. And why should they? No sporting rivalries are anything more than built up lore and hatred between supporters. Nobody’s fighting on the pitch and doing anything ban worthy. Just go for it I say, on our end there’s always the chance of the higher the climb the harder the fall. I’ll flipping love it if the Netherlands win tomorrow, but that’s me being a petty sports fan!
    Alkaid13Elisa
  • Alkaid13Alkaid13 Georgia
    edited July 5
    I mean @amyja89 has basically hit it spot on, Americans simply don’t care that our team is the best and gloats about it on the field. In fact we secretly kind of enjoy that they gloat because we have something of a superiority complex. That’s a dickish thing to admit it to though so no one is willing to own up to it, except for me I guess. Everyone else would rather pass it off as something more legitimate like sexism (which is absolutely still a big problem in sports generally and with the Women’s US Soccer team specifically, just not as applicable here). Personally, I couldn’t care less about people being mad at the US team because I kind of don’t care that much about sports, get good and we’ll stop showing you up. 
    Elisa
  • HunkuleseHunkulese Québec, Canada
    Alkaid13 said:
    I mean @amyja89 has basically hit it spot on, Americans simply don’t care that our team is the best and gloats about it on the field. In fact we secretly kind of enjoy that they gloat because we have something of a superiority complex. That’s a dickish thing to admit it to though so no one is willing to own up to it, except for me I guess. Everyone else would rather pass it off as something more legitimate like sexism (which is absolutely still a big problem in sports generally and with the Women’s US Soccer team specifically, just not as applicable here). Personally, I couldn’t care less about people being mad at the US team because I kind of don’t care that much about sports, get good and we’ll stop showing you up. 
    That's the problem. They're not willing to just embrace the fact that they're better than everyone and having fun showing them up. The fact that there is a legitimate problem with sexism in sports is also a problem here. When they're crying sexism over something that clearly has nothing to do with sexism is just going to cause people to tune them out when they're bringing up legitimate sexist issues.
  • So .... the final is tomorrow!
    Anyone has ideas on how Holland could possibly defeat the US?

    Asking for 11 friends :-)
    Elisa
  • HunkuleseHunkulese Québec, Canada
    So .... the final is tomorrow!
    Anyone has ideas on how Holland could possibly defeat the US?

    Asking for 11 friends :-)
    Scoring more goals than the other team usually works out pretty well.
    Elisa
  • JaimieTJaimieT Atlanta, GA
    Hunkulese said:
    Alkaid13 said:
    I mean @amyja89 has basically hit it spot on, Americans simply don’t care that our team is the best and gloats about it on the field. In fact we secretly kind of enjoy that they gloat because we have something of a superiority complex. That’s a dickish thing to admit it to though so no one is willing to own up to it, except for me I guess. Everyone else would rather pass it off as something more legitimate like sexism (which is absolutely still a big problem in sports generally and with the Women’s US Soccer team specifically, just not as applicable here). Personally, I couldn’t care less about people being mad at the US team because I kind of don’t care that much about sports, get good and we’ll stop showing you up. 
    That's the problem. They're not willing to just embrace the fact that they're better than everyone and having fun showing them up. The fact that there is a legitimate problem with sexism in sports is also a problem here. When they're crying sexism over something that clearly has nothing to do with sexism is just going to cause people to tune them out when they're bringing up legitimate sexist issues.

    Yeah it's really hard to fight sexism correctly. Who, what, when, why, how, etc. 

    /s
  • The USWNT is the undisputed number 1.  Opposing teams cannot compete traditionally, so the next best option is to try to compete physically.  Alex Morgan is a walking bruise at this point.

    Celebrate away USA.
  • edited July 7
    Rapinoe=Clutch 
    Elisa
  • Game over 
  • sorry i know this isn’t a political thread but Trump will probably invite the Netherlands to the White House just to reinforce his “Im a shameless dick” brand
    JaimieT
  • JaimieTJaimieT Atlanta, GA
    edited July 7
    adobo1148 said:
    sorry i know this isn’t a political thread but Trump will probably invite the Netherlands to the White House just to reinforce his “Im a shameless dick” brand

    "The women's team won't come. They won't come. So what do you do, you invite the team that will come and the Netherlands team was the best team, I think. The best team is the smart team and the Netherlands has a very smart team. I think so. So you invite them. And that's what winning is. It's not the other thing, it's the Netherlands."
  • Hunkulese said:
    I'm really put off by how clueless the Americans seem to be about why people are criticizing them. You can't just refute every criticism by saying that it wouldn't happen if they were men. Celebrating big goals on a big stage is definitely 100% okay. When it's not okay is when you're trying to purposely show up the other team. Who knows what her intentions were, but there's no way Alex Morgan is that ignorant that she can't see why some people would think that pretending to sip tea against England might seem like she's showing them up.

    When men do things like this, they're equally blasted by the media. Remember when Terell Owens thought it was a good idea to celebrate on the Dallas star?

    From my point of view, I don't care at all and think it's silly. It just bugs me how much they're trying to turn it into a sexism thing.
    If you don't want to get shown up, don't lose the game. 

    End of story. 
    JaimieT
  • HunkuleseHunkulese Québec, Canada
    edited July 7
    asmallcat said:
    Hunkulese said:
    I'm really put off by how clueless the Americans seem to be about why people are criticizing them. You can't just refute every criticism by saying that it wouldn't happen if they were men. Celebrating big goals on a big stage is definitely 100% okay. When it's not okay is when you're trying to purposely show up the other team. Who knows what her intentions were, but there's no way Alex Morgan is that ignorant that she can't see why some people would think that pretending to sip tea against England might seem like she's showing them up.

    When men do things like this, they're equally blasted by the media. Remember when Terell Owens thought it was a good idea to celebrate on the Dallas star?

    From my point of view, I don't care at all and think it's silly. It just bugs me how much they're trying to turn it into a sexism thing.
    If you don't want to get shown up, don't lose the game. 

    End of story. 
    You completely missed the point. You score a goal or win the game, you can do whatever you want. But if you're showing the other team up, people are going to be offended whether you're a man, woman, or child. None of the complaints were made because they're women.

    Baseball is the extreme example of this. If you don't run fast enough around the bases after a home run people are offended. Look at the outrage a few years ago when Jose Bautista flipped his bat after a walk off home run in the playoffs. Or when James Harden made the guy fall over with his step back and stared him down before shooting. People get outraged over perceived disrespect in sports all the time.

    Not to mention that she specifically points to men grabbing their sacks as evidence of the double standard. Guess what Diego Simeone was fined for doing after a goal earlier this year.
  • Hunkulese said:
    asmallcat said:
    Hunkulese said:
    I'm really put off by how clueless the Americans seem to be about why people are criticizing them. You can't just refute every criticism by saying that it wouldn't happen if they were men. Celebrating big goals on a big stage is definitely 100% okay. When it's not okay is when you're trying to purposely show up the other team. Who knows what her intentions were, but there's no way Alex Morgan is that ignorant that she can't see why some people would think that pretending to sip tea against England might seem like she's showing them up.

    When men do things like this, they're equally blasted by the media. Remember when Terell Owens thought it was a good idea to celebrate on the Dallas star?

    From my point of view, I don't care at all and think it's silly. It just bugs me how much they're trying to turn it into a sexism thing.
    If you don't want to get shown up, don't lose the game. 

    End of story. 
    You completely missed the point. You score a goal or win the game, you can do whatever you want. But if you're showing the other team up, people are going to be offended whether you're a man, woman, or child. None of the complaints were made because they're women.

    Baseball is the extreme example of this. If you don't run fast enough around the bases after a home run people are offended. Look at the outrage a few years ago when Jose Bautista flipped his bat after a walk off home run in the playoffs. Or when James Harden made the guy fall over with his step back and stared him down before shooting. Losers get outraged over perceived disrespect in sports all the time.
    I fixed your post.
    asmallcat
  • And that’s the tea!
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