Locke and Key - Netflix

I've been looking forward to this series for about ten years after reading the comic, so suffice to say I was pretty, pretty hyped for it to premier on Netflix yesterday.  I've only watched one episode because the series is such a favorite I just really don't want to rush through it and then be waiting for more.  Same reason I haven't watched the new season of the Expanse, yet.  It's like a fine wine that you anticipate opening.

First episode (no spoilers) was very good, in my incredibly biased opinion.  I was ready to hate it from anticipointment, and I definitely did not.  It's great that Joe Hill was involved with writing it for television.  (Also co-written by some guy named Aron.) Up front, I gotta say this will never be as good as the comic, because the nature of sequential art just allows for different pacing and visual transitions, and Gabriel Rodriguez did some amazing things in that series. 

This first episode effectively introduces all of the major characters that will be involved in the story and, more importantly, juggles pretty well all the different tones that the story hits.  It balances teenage drama, little kid adventure, family in crisis, and horror elements, and I think the script and cinematography in this first episode effectively delivered on all of them.

I'm really struggling to write a review because I don't want to spoil stuff or rant about the minute and major differences in the adaptation, so I'll just cut this off by saying WATCH THIS SHOW, or maybe just buy the comic, and then come back and discuss it, lol.
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  • As I write this comment, my wife is binging this show and on episode 6.  Every time I walk in the room she says, “This show is so crazy!  I can’t explain anything about it but you have to watch!”
    ken hale
  • ElisaElisa Los Angeles
    Thanks for the review. Adding to my long list of shows.  :)
    joejerryronnie
  • Teresa from ConcordTeresa from Concord Concord, California
    Definitely worth investigating. Thanks for the heads up!

  • CoryCory New Scotland
    Just saw a post on FB that the town (Matheson in the show) was filmed here (well a small, neighbouring town), so maybe I should watch it. 

    Well, I'm going to right now...
    ken hale
  • FreddyFreddy Denton, Texas
    OG comic reader checking in. Netflix wins this round. It's amazing. Perfect casting on Bode. That kid is going places.
    Elisaken hale
  • So happy to see other fans of the source material saying this is worth watching. Joe Hill is a very talented writer (I'm a big fan of his short stories and novels) and with his great writing combined with Gabriel Rodriguez's artwork, Locke & Key is amongst his best work to date. I was skeptical how it would turn out due the difficulties in translating such a story, but definitely going to check it out now.
    ken hale
  • CoryCory New Scotland
    I think I fell asleep watching episode 4 (not from boredom), and I found myself becoming pretty interested in it.
  • CoryCory New Scotland
    Look familar?
    Tomalexwhithamken hale
  • It's such a great comic! I haven't started the show yet, but just remembered yesterday that Netflix was actually doing it and saw that it's out now. I'm really looking forward to it. Glad to hear that people seem to be liking it.
    Tomalexwhitham
  • Garthgou81Garthgou81 Placerville, CA
    I have all the hardcovers, and most are signed by Joe Hill. He is a fantastic man and incredibly funny. With that said, I've heard lukewarm things about this. And I love the comic too much. So I think I'm just going to sit this one out. 
    ken hale
  • CoryCory New Scotland
    I have all the hardcovers, and most are signed by Joe Hill. He is a fantastic man and incredibly funny. With that said, I've heard lukewarm things about this. And I love the comic too much. So I think I'm just going to sit this one out. 
    Is the source material novels or comic books?  Or are there such things as hardcover comic books?
  • Garthgou81Garthgou81 Placerville, CA
    Cory said:
    I have all the hardcovers, and most are signed by Joe Hill. He is a fantastic man and incredibly funny. With that said, I've heard lukewarm things about this. And I love the comic too much. So I think I'm just going to sit this one out. 
    Is the source material novels or comic books?  Or are there such things as hardcover comic books?
    The source material is comic books. But yes, there are hardcover comics. Some publishers will collect a certain number of comics that have already been release and publish them again in a hardcover format. 
  • CecilyCecily Cincinnati
    I am most of the way through this show. I turned it on as background watching, but was hooked almost immediately.  I love a good YA that leans more into the 'adult' part.  It's making me think I should catch up on the graphic novels. 

    I also hate to make this comparison but also thinks it's totally fair, it's got just a hint of Stephen King's DNA in it, just enough for me to say that if you like King's YA takes, Dreamcatcher for instance, I think you'll like this.

    (Yes I know that the writer literally has King's DNA)
    Elisaken hale
  • CoryCory New Scotland
    Cecily said:

    (Yes I know that the writer literally has King's DNA)
    Hmm, does this mean he can make shadow babies?  :*


    I'm going to keep my eyes open, and if I can get the opportunity to be an Extra (and it's summer) I'm going to wear my House Snow-Bald Move t-shirt.
    CecilyTeresa from Concord
  • CecilyCecily Cincinnati
    @Cory if you can accomplish this feat, I will give you a free club membership for a year.

    Cory
  • I hit a wall with this after episode 4 that I’m just not going to be able to get through anymore. This is every bad network television show that my co-worker who has terrible taste in television tries to get me to watch. This is barely worthy of CW.
    ken hale
  • edited February 21
    I wanted to like this more than I did- the premise was interesting. I'm at the beginning of ep. 9 and still don't know the bad guy's motivation. (They want to do x, but why? What are the stakes if they are not stopped?)   
  • CoryCory New Scotland
    Cecily said:
    @Cory if you can accomplish this feat, I will give you a free club membership for a year.

    Accepted!
  • I watched it all, and it's a hot pile of garbage. The decisions the characters make are questionable, at best.  Bode was very annoying, and the mother needs to go to a parenting class. Also, no one seems to be surprised by all the supernatural shit going on. It's taken at face value nearly immediately, no questions or shock. 
    MajorMalfunction
  • Teresa from ConcordTeresa from Concord Concord, California
    I did finish but not with much enthusiasm. I found myself rolling my eyes way too many times. I’m not familiar with the source material and not sure that matters. But no season 2 for me. There’s too much good tv available now to recommend this. 
  • Damn, I'm still working my way through very (very) slowly, so it's disappointing to hear that the quality tails off.  I'm gonna stick with out for sentimental reasons, for sure.
  • Haters gonna hate.  Maybe it's my love for the source material clouding my vision, but I enjoyed it.  It is certainly not prestige television, by any stretch.  It still makes for pretty good pulp though.  My girlfriend started out hating it but was eating it up by the end.  Not every show will be Breaking Bad or the Leftovers, and that's okay.  I'm not arguing everyone should like it, just that I did and you might too.  (You, who are reading this but haven't started the show yet.)
    Coryken halerhcoop
  • Watched the entirety of the show over the weekend and it was decent.  Without being spoilery the only thing I really noticed and disliked is how some of the kids did complete 180* turns on certain things with seemingly no reason or justification.  I was able to partially handwave away the other minor issues with the show people have mentioned.  This was a fun show and I'll give season 2 a shot.  
    ken haleElisa
  • Hell, yes, I'm bumping my dead topic! Why? Because I just watched episode two, that's why!  I mean what I say, and when I said I was stretching this out, I meant I'm gonna watch one episode a month, lol.  Really let it sink in because I know I might not get anymore.

    I love this show to death, and if nobody else liked it and it existed only for me, I'd be totally cool with that.  (Unless it's not renewed, and I don't think it has been yet.  Shit.  All my fault for not binging it.  Where's Bezos to the rescue when I need him?!?)

    Anyway, episode 2.  Generally speaking, I'm really on-board for most of the divergences from the source material. It feels almost like an elseworlds story in that universe, and that's cool because, frankly, even a shot-for-panel adaptation wouldn't compare.  Having Tyler and Kinsey interact with a wider circle of friends (including some new characters that I already kind of like) feels a bit more realistic, and I can go for the occasional teen drama, so I don't mind more of an emphasis on that.  I refuse to believe this is CW-level dialog and cinematography.   If it is I'd watch the CW, I guess.  That scene where Kinsey has the onset of PTSD during the Lobster-slasher movie was really well-done on all counts, IMO.

    That said, expanding their social interactions does take a bit away from the claustrophobic feeling of the comic, and the menace of having them all gravitate toward a certain "friend" whose intentions the reader knows to be anything but.  In that same vein, the show isn't nearly as scary as the comic, or as graphic (pun).  Stuff like having Echo free from the well so soon and toning down Rendell's murder I'm kind of on the fence with thus far (although the latter I wouldn't really want to argue against).  Remains to be seen if removing some of these elements from the story ultimately minimizes the tension and emotional reaction that the story invokes. 

    I’m gonna put a link here that actually lets you read a whole issue of the comic which pays homage to Calvin and Hobbes while still being pretty damn scary and unexpectedly emotional.  If you’ve got a few minutes, check it out. It’s later in the story and a bit spoilery but stands alone even if you don’t give a shit about the story. If this artwork doesn’t entice you to read the comic, nothing will.  Gabriel Rodriguez was an absolute beast on this series. 

    https://www.newsarama.com/13653-full-free-issue-locke-key-keys-to-the-kingdom-1.html#s4

    Elisarhcoop
  • JoshTheBlackJoshTheBlack Atlanta, GA
    @ken hale I hope you post a review for each episode in this thread, even if it's November before you wrap it up!
  • edited March 10
    @JoshTheBlack ;

    Thanks, man, I really hope I can make it last that long; it is tempting to watch the rest right now :) 

    Meantime, you (and the other fans in this thread) might want to check out a podcast called Locke and Key: Unlocked, if you haven't already.  Those guys have great chemistry and have been doing it a long time (their show first brought it to my attention all those years ago).  They've got episode and book discussions, interviews with all the creators, and I didn't know this but they apparently became so tight w Hill and Rodriguez back when it was coming out that they were depicted as side characters in the series! 
  • rhcooprhcoop Knoxville, Tn
    I really enjoyed it, it wasn't perfect, but it was pretty good.  I thought they did a good show displaying how the keys work in live action.  I'm a big fan of the comic and I was a bit worried how they would show how some of the keys worked, especially the head key, on the show versus in the comic were the special fx budget is unlimited. 

    Where they've strayed from the comic plot wise is twisting me up some, but its been long enough since I've read the comic that it's not unbearable.  

    However, one thing I think is pretty obnoxious is changing the name of the town.  Seems pretty unnecessary when all of the work of the author the town is named after is in the public domain.  Lovecraft is a lot cooler name than matheson and I like that author's work too. 
    ken hale
  • I liked it overall, but I can understand the criticism. It's hard to sit through ten episodes and still not know what the motivation of the main antagonist is. Or to watch that antagonist get the better of the "heroes" time and time again. It just makes the heroes look kind of dumb. 

    From what I can gather, it seems like this used most of the printed source material already, so if there's a second season it would have to be mostly original material. Could be better that way.

    One more thing: Connor Jessup is 26 years old and has been playing teenagers for over a decade. I wonder how much longer he's going to be able to play high school aged kids.
    ken hale
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