Why did A.Ron leave Better Call Saul

hickeyink

No Offence to Alexis, but it was so much better with A.Ron, it has kind of turned into a comedy podcast now and Im really not a fan of these comedy type podcasts. I hear on a previous cast that they spoke about it somewhere, but can't find out where, anyone help
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Naugustine

Aron addressed the issue on the Feb 28th lunch 

hickeyink

So, he just got over the show basically

Schlupp

He is hateful, and so am I.

Freddy

He didn't approve of his little brother's methods. Jim is like a chimp with a machine gun when it comes to coverage, and A. Ron couldn't be party to it. 

Teresa from Concord

It goes without saying that I’ll always miss A_Ron, but I mostly enjoyed the coverage. My feedback sent with love and appreciation - maybe less snarky comments and swearing. I’m not even close to a prude or easily offended, but it happens a lot it and takes me out of the conversation. I love the breakdowns and theorizing. And keep the rumors and feedback coming.

Looking forward to the final season!

nstinson

hickeyink said:

No Offence to Alexis, but it was so much better with A.Ron, it has kind of turned into a comedy podcast now and Im really not a fan of these comedy type podcasts. I hear on a previous cast that they spoke about it somewhere, but can't find out where, anyone help
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I tend to agree with you. The vibe feels very different.

Killert0ast

Honestly I loved the coverage of this season. Usually when a new host joins it bothers me, but it worked for me.

jleav382

I think part of what has contributed to some of the disappointment is the fact that this IMO has been the best season of better call saul by a long shot, there were parts this season where I haven't felt that way since breaking bad and it sort of undermines the whole reason why Aaron left the show, because I totally understand why he did, the show was undoubtedly kicking the proverbial Saul can down the road. 

Walnut Frey

I agree that it was better with Aron. Honestly, sorry Alexis, but the chemistry between him and Aron is, not better not saying that at all, but different, in a slightly more studied and philosophical way. The way they bounce ideas and theories off of each other was really fun and fascinating to listen to, whereas with Jim and Alexis, it’s frustrating because I hear two people who are so at ease with each other and are having fun, but it does nothing for me. I’ve done a podcast with my wife before and I can say that I had one idea of how it would go but it becomes a different thing with your SO in a way that you can’t be mad at them for not reacting the way you want or thinking as seriously as you, but you are annoyed that it’s turned into something else.

wadejared

I preferred this season's coverage with Alexis. A.Ron had a weird hang up with this stellar show and mainly just said the same thing over and over. To the point that I didn't realize Jim was enjoying it as much as he clearly is. I never want "fanboy" coverage. But it was much more pleasant and enjoyable to hear it discussed by people who like the show for what it is rather than harping on what it is not and just repeating the same criticisms.

I also think I just enjoy hearing Jim with someone else in general. Don't get me wrong: The Jim and ARon show is why we're all here. They are phenomenal together. Of course. But I've listened to literally ... thousands(?) ... of hours of them together and it's nice to hear a different dynamic that works great as well.

More Jim and Alexis please!

rkcrawf

FWIW, I liked this season's coverage with Jim and Alexis. The on-air chemistry was great, and it is honestly just more enjoyable when someone is into the show. 

Graham

jleav382 said:

I think part of what has contributed to some of the disappointment is the fact that this IMO has been the best season of better call saul by a long shot, there were parts this season where I haven't felt that way since breaking bad and it sort of undermines the whole reason why Aaron left the show, because I totally understand why he did, the show was undoubtedly kicking the proverbial Saul can down the road. 

Totally agreed. Though while liked this season, it still feels like that can is being kicked. With only 13 episodes left of the series, it still only feels like Jimmy is Saul in name with the very beginnings of a "friendship" with the cartel. There is no sign of the office, Francesca is still out in the wind with no reason to come back into the fold, there's no Kuby, no Jimmy In-And-Out, no affiliation with Ed (except for the posthumous flash-forward), Kim and Saul are still very much a pairing with Saul not being a womanizing sleazeball, and it seems like their endgame in the final season is going to be...screwing over Howard? I just don't see how we're headed for any sort of definitive finale for the series. The only thing keeping things interesting is Lalo, and I guess that one guy trying to blackmail Gene. Even then given everything we haven't seen from Saul's background, I can't imagine we'll have that much time dedicated to them.

Garthgou81

So, a couple of things,

First, what many were worried about before this show started was how over-bearing Saul could be as a lead. He works in spurts on BB because he is obnoxious. If we had to follow BB Saul for 44 minutes every episode, that would get real annoying real quick. I think they knew that and have managed to tap dance...sometimes a bit too long, I will give you that...with Jimmy's turn to Saul. I will say that for everything to wrap up, we are going to need much more Gene stuff, and I suspect another time jump and some montages of Saul actually lawyering. They have a longer season next season. And I believe they have a road map for where they are going, even if not all the particulars set. 

For all the BB connections, they need to be done sparingly to be effective. Even the regular use of Huell...I started to get worried we would get too much fan service for the sake of fan service. If we had an episode where we show each of those connections, it gets to be too much. They've given us enough with Huell, Francessca, Mike (and then tangentially Gus) for us to see how he'd end up with a host of pals to call on. Not to mention Kuby was supposed to be in this season, but couldn't due to other stuff going on. Sometimes things just don't work out. I'd say they even pushed the envelope with the cartel and Gus stuff, which always causes a huge yawn from me (with some exceptions of course). But everyone's mileage varies on what they prefer. I am not saying I am right, just what I care and don't care about. 

Last thing, and on a different note, during a recent lunch Aron got asked if he had kept up with BCS even though he wasn't covering it. It was towards the end of this last season. There was a huge pregnant pause and he hadn't watched any of the season. Is that what you'd want to listen to in a podcast, someone who lacks that interest to even watch it just for pleasure? Not to speak for him, but it just isn't scratching that itch for him right now, it appears.

TangoNevada

I would really have loved if A.Ron stayed with the show. But I understand why he might have stopped (Admitting I never heard an official explanation) but after 3 seasons of Jimmy's brother I was ready to give up myself. But I stuck with it for the other story lines. Since it's fiction I can say thank God they killed off Chuck. He was annoying as fuck #fuckchuck. Sometimes when a character is only intended to be annoying within the show's context, they also tend to be just as annoying to the viewers. Which can simply turn viewers off to the show. That plot line took up way too much time. After season 1 I think we were all like, we get it, chuck's an asshole and he was a key figure in Jimmy becoming Saul..Move on.

That being said, Alexis was a fresh new voice to the show and focused on the many aspects of Kim's character I think many people were just ignoring. While in reality Kim is one of the most important driving factors in Jimmy's life and transition.

That being said, damn, since Chuck died this show took a big turn and I would love to also hear A.Ron's take on the last season and upcoming season(s) since Chuck's BBQ.

I would assume A.Ron is still watching. So may I suggest that while he doesn't need to do the week to week Podcast of each Episode.It would be awesome if all 3 of you did a season wrap up and series wrap up when that happens. Because for me, the post Chuck seasons have been the best seasons so far. It's one of those rare shows that has actually gotten better as it progresses. 

TFN

Garthgou81

I think calling Chuck as just an annoyance for the purpose of the show is being dismissive. It helps us understand (to a degree) Jimmy and why he may have made certain decisions. I believe Aron, and not to speak for him, found some of the ponderous Mike in the desert stuff more off-putting. It's a patient show that consistently pulls things together in the last few episodes of each season.

But watching it week-to-week, those bits can feel like a bit of a slog. I love the show, but find the cartel stuff beyond boring. Everyone's mileage varies. I loved the Chuck stuff, and the lead up to the end of season 3, helped the impact of his actions. You can't rush that stuff, otherwise, it feels like you are being led by plot points, and not led by the character's decisions. 

Aron mentioned certain parts of the show being tedious. He was recently asked during a lunch if he'd caught up, and the answer was no, but that he may want to watch once the last season completely airs. And god knows when that will happen. 2022 at the earliest is what I would guess. 

jleav382

Honestly, I think this is walking dead all over again and not just for Aaron for many people. Just when the show pivots into greatness (in walking dead's case just "better") Aaron bounces because he's fed up. But ever since season 5 aired I have been hearing comments like "this is the show I have been waiting for" all over the internet. Honestly I think a lot of this just comes down to bad timing. 

The_D

I thought Alexis did a fantastic job and would look forward to more coverage with Jim and Alexis. Im sure Jim would agree, I could listen to Alexis read the phone book and she would find a way to both make a joke and offer an insight. Am I the only one who (kinda) wants to see coverage from all 4, A. Ron, Cecily, Jim, & Alexis on one show? They each have a unique voice and have individually made different, but impactful, contributions to my viewing experience of shows including Better Call Saul, OITNB, AHS, and the classic Jim & A. Ron shows.