tom_g said:I like the season so far, and the episode was very good, but, I'm going to ask again - How did Frank get into this mess??In a legitimate transaction, for real estate, with a lawyer's blessing, he gave a potential partner millions of dollars in cash, without an immediate balancing half of the transaction?? Not a signature on a form, receipt, deed, partnership, NOTHING?? I'd understand a smaller amount to fix a bid - the payoff - that makes sense. Bid fixing = cash. THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED!!!! He gave someone $7,000,000.00 in cash to be part of a legitimate land purchase, without any of the paperwork that would protect himself. No one is that stupid. Not a single member of this board, no lawyer in the history of lawyering, no one, NO ONE, would do that.Has anyone here ever bought a house? Did you ever feel like you were going pay for the house, but, not really get the house?I have watch intently, it has not been explained. Has not been explained in this forum either.
At least until that final freeze frame. What is this, Magnum P.I.? Not since the series premiere of The Walking Dead ended with a Wang Chung song on the soundtrack has a non-finale episode ending been this baffling.
A_Ron_Hubbard said:Director: Jeremy Podeswa Writer: Nic Pizzolatto & Scott LasserStill making my way back from Beaver Island, so I won't be able to watch this until tomorrow, but here is your open thread for tonight's episode!
Director: Jeremy Podeswa Writer: Nic Pizzolatto & Scott LasserStill making my way back from Beaver Island, so I won't be able to watch this until tomorrow, but here is your open thread for tonight's episode!
Beaver Island, I'm sorry but what the fuck is that, sounds like a swingers retreat. The part in the Christopher Walkin SNL the one with Col. Angus, "The incident.. at Big Beaver.. " It's true, I'm afraid.. ten men were lost.. and I suffered a great injury.. to my jaw. I goggled it I see what it is but come on.
James said:1. Someone's got a _lot_ of paperwork to fill out!2. Reminds me of the North Hollywood Shootout in 1997. Two bank robbers with illegally modified automatic weapons, almost 2000 rounds fired, 15-20 officers + civilians injured (none killed), both robbers dead.3. I recognize some elements from season 1 here -- I take it that Paul, Ani, and Ray will be touted as heroes for solving the murder, but they know that there's someone much more powerful behind the whole thing -- that's the case they'll be investigating in the other half of the episodes. Chasing a masked (maybe axe-wielding) murderer through the Bohemian Grove redwoods, anyone?
1. Someone's got a _lot_ of paperwork to fill out!
When I was watching the show I mentioned the N. Hollywood shootout to my brother who was there watching too, I remember watching that live when it went down on the news. I was screaming for my roommate to turn on his TV. Anyway if on the next episode the whole place isn't loaded with more cops and FBI, I'm gonna have to call bullshit. That was a CNN in your face 24/7 moment.
The part where Frank shakes down the hotel guy. I seen that kind of stuff around my old home town(in LA county) a lot. Where people would have a bunch of illegal immigrants and they would sell them shelter and food for the money they made working. I have a few stories about that shit.
I'm sure that it was just me, but did anyone else wish that we could get a time machine and have Inspector Todd from Beverly Hills Cop play Ani's boss? I feel like he would have landed the "I don't care who you fuck so long as you don't find them here and get IA crawling up my ass" portion amazingly. Just a random thought.
I'll also mirror the sentiment about not getting why so many people are so mad at this season. I'm really enjoying it. I do need to re-watch season 1 to get a comparison, but in a way I'm glad that it's not fresh in my mind. Maybe this season is a little brood-ish, but I'm fine with that. I have real faith that they're building something very cool here and I've been getting progressively more excited from week to week.
That shoot-out was fucking fierce. Not a ton more to say on the subject, but damn! They done blew up Camp Tikihama guy's head! I'm a little bummed to see him go. I wanted to know more about what he was up to. I'm sure we'll still find out, but I like that actor (name escapes me at the moment) and I liked his character's little snarky lines.
My wife tried to be me that Ani and Ray would sleep together at some point this season and I told her that I didn't think it would happen, but that I wouldn't take the bet. I'm looking at the cards and I'm super glad that I didn't. That shit seems pretty inevitable.
Travis said: I'll also mirror the sentiment about not getting why so many people are so mad at this season. I'm really enjoying it. I do need to re-watch season 1 to get a comparison, but in a way I'm glad that it's not fresh in my mind. Maybe this season is a little brood-ish, but I'm fine with that. I have real faith that they're building something very cool here and I've been getting progressively more excited from week to week.
@bizmarkiefader I do get the thing about the dialog. It doesn't bother me personally, but I do get it as a legit criticism. My wife actually shouted at the tv last week "Why don't they just talk like real people!?" Personally, I'm glad that not all tv shows have dialogue like that (it would be incredibly obnoxious if they did), but I kind of like it. I enjoy those sort of over the top, literary types of monologues and one on one conversations. The Sorkin-esque constant speech making. There is totally a time and a place for it, but given that these character are really over the top it helps... I guess in an odd way it helps bring me into this story. It is a mechanism for tone setting, kind of a part of the mission statement. That probably all sounds like bullshit, but it's hard to articulate. It just feels right to me. I mean, it hasn't been all home runs and I totally acknowledge that when you take that approach and whiff, you really end up whiffing big and it stands out, but for the most part I have liked it. I totally get why it would be incredibly distracting and annoying though.
I'm also on an island here, I'm sure, but I liked the "I've never had a cavity in my life" thing. Granted, I thought it was funny and maybe I wasn't supposed to, but either way I did like it.
@bizmarkiefader Thanks, man. I more so meant that the explanation would sound like BS (mostly the talk about "mission statements"), but it is true that there is always a little feeling of awkwardness when there is something that is seen as a consensus problem that you're actually in favor of. I don't get too self conscious about it anymore, but I used to in my younger years. Anyhoo, thanks man. I appreciate that.