205 - "Other Lives"

Writer: Nic Pizzolatto
Director:  John Crowley
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  • JamesJames southern California
    There's your Psychosphere!
  • Is this the episode where the DC-8s dump their payloads into Earth's volcanoes or is that reveal waiting for OT8? Er, episode 8.
    A_Ron_Hubbard
  • A_Ron_HubbardA_Ron_Hubbard Cincinnati, OH
    Teague Dixon: He smelled of bourbon and farts.
    steph_bchuck1991jennieGarrison66conner.breitling95ksa1001Travis
  • Holy crap. Amazing episode. Someone's not walking away from that table next week, and Ray has already been shot once.

    In defense of Sad Guitar Girl (in universe), it's not that unlikely that one musician would play at the same bar a few times a week. Hell, she might even be on Frank's payroll. I get the idea that he digs the feels she gives him.
    Out of universe, that's Lera Lynn who was hired by Nic P. T Bone Burnett to write a shit-ton of music (most of it really good) for this season, so I guess it's like the score? I, for one, really enjoy it. 
    steph_bTravis
  • kingbee67kingbee67 Los Angeles Ca.
    edited July 2015

    1 Ray lost the stash but kept the bolo tie.

    2 TV shows need more blackjack beatings now a days.

    3 Modelo the beer of the working man.

    4 Rick Spingfield getting his for what he did to Jesse's Girl.

    5 That guy that plays the mayor, does he act like that in every part he plays, I saw him like that in a Law And Order

    6 When I have something important to tell someone I always do it overlooking Dodger stadium.


    steph_bksa1001Travis
  • Frank is running a card room, a nightclub, girls, drugs, and several protection schemes all over town, but he can't afford his mortgage? Why is Frank antagonizing the mayor when he sets his crime tax?
  • I like Lera Lynn too. the character she plays looks strung out on heroin. Maybe she is playing for tips. Or the only sad sack showing up for open mic night every day. I don't find her playing there to be unbelievable at all. I quite like it. I'd take her over the Conway Twitty impersonator any day.
    TravisAntManBee
  • bizmarkiefaderbizmarkiefader San Francisco
    How exactly does one cure blue balls of the heart? 
    steph_bDaveyMacksa1001Travis
  • 5 That guy that plays the mayor, does he act like that in every part he plays, I saw him like that in a Law And Order




    Pretty much. He played a different type character in Luck, a loser, low rent, screw loose gambler type, yet he acted basically the same as he does in TD.
    steph_bTravis
  • Funniest line of the night-

    FRANK: Hey Cisco Kid, can I help you with something?
    steph_bksa1001MichaelTravis
  • How exactly does one cure blue balls of the heart? 



    Handjob of the kidney.
    conner.breitling95steph_bDaveyMacTravisangryjef
  • edited July 2015
    This show is killing me. Are they seriously going to pull an undercover Ani in one of the sex parties after she led possibly the deadliest non-military shootout in modern U.S. history? Her face and sordid past should have been in most major newspapers and on television after that fiasco.
  • AjasAjas Seattle, WA
    If we want to go funniest line-- I mean "Portly man, smelled like bourbon.  And flatulent."  wins 10/10

    But give it up for Paul-- he's on-screen for like 60 seconds while the Mother-In-Law is delivering the news about moving in and his ONLY line:  "Might get kinda cramped."   That was great.

    Anyway, I absolutely loved this episode.  My favorite of the season.  2 things I thought were cool-- how completely ridiculous all of the characters looked in their new outfits-- Ani in uniformed county PD, Paul whose suits are off by 2 sizes, and Ray....  Poor Ray. How transformative was it when he ditched the bolo and suit, and was still wearing gloves to go beat up Pitlor?  Fantastic.

    The other was when they put the band back together with Paul, Ray, and Ani-- that flyover shot and the establishing shot of the intersection was exactly where the final shoot out happened, even the very camera position.  Like they wanted to say "Hey the streets are clean now as far as everyone is concerned."  And these same protagonists are back to stir up some mayhem.  

    More to come...
    TravisAntManBeeangryjef
  • AjasAjas Seattle, WA
    Oh and while the opening lyrics changing seemed like a good idea at the beginning... it's quickly becoming the stupidest part of the show.

    And no.  "Fate" does not rhyme with "Intimate" no matter how scowling you voice it.
  • AjasAjas Seattle, WA
    And... not to tinfoil the thread on page 1 but...

    We already know Bran is watching these murders unfold through the ravens eyes of the mask... Now Lady Melisandre is in play.

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    TravisAManIsNoOne
  • Hm, everything turns out as expected. Frank used Ray's rage back then, the man on the photo didn't look much like the red head boy. I actually thought that maybe one of Frank's men was the rapist (the red one haha), but he was not, conspicuously.
    And the whole Bohemian Grove thing turns out to be the major inspiration for occult (=secretive) parties going on.

    Undercover Ani? Yeah have to have an undercover story every season in order to parallel the first. Even Ray starts muttering philosophical stuff behind the wheel.

    I really hope the main antagonist identity is really surprising, but I fear it won't.
  • <sarcasm> Pretty sure that is the last we see of the Cisco Kid </sarcasm>

    Frank's wife doesn't make it to the finale.
    TravisMichaelmanhattnikDoctor_Nick
  • UnderwoodUnderwood Philadelphia, PA
    Really enjoyed this episode. We're starting to see some dots connect and the plot moving forward at an increasing pace. Colin Farrel was awesome this episode! When he learned about the rapist being confirmed and captured.. You could really see / feel his pain and mind racing about what he's done.
    ksa1001Garrison66TravisAntManBee
  • bizmarkiefaderbizmarkiefader San Francisco
    edited July 2015
    Does anybody know what we were supposed to take away from the Ani in her sexual harassment rehabilitation group scene? Is she just trying to fuck with the facilitator by riling up the other sleazebags or is she on their side somehow? Is she so above it that she's just going to say outlandish shit until they kick her out?

    I'm also really confused about who's responsible for directing them to the meth lab last episode. I would have thought a shooting like that would bring unwanted heat and attention to a city that tries to avoid any sort of scrutiny, but it sounds like they were able to convince the public to leave it at "gangster meth lab".
  • The scarred barmaid HAS to have significance at some point later in the season. They've shown her so many times and the look that she gave Ani implied that she's definitely into Ray - maybe she'll tell Frank that Ray's still involved with the investigation into Casper's death? I can't imagine Ray would be forthcoming with that information himself
    EnverTravisDoctor_Nick
  • edited July 2015
    @bizmarkiefader After Ani was called out for sleeping with an underling and her married partner, she indicated a lack of remorse and didn't seem to understand that it was a problem. I was more appalled than amused that she was given that line about big dicks. It was laugh out loud bad like the blue balls line. I imagine she would get fired if she didn't complete the counseling session, so I doubt that is her intention. Evidence indicates that she is a sleaze like most of her comrades in the session.

    I think that Nic P is heavily trolling the critics that wanted a more than paper thin female character this season. She is just as bad or worse than some of the males this season. I still think that it was very weird to introduce her with the mystery of what taboo sex act she was into. That kind of thing is fit for a porno with a narrative. I'm hoping she isn't debased further at the sex party, but I won't hold my breath. 
    tom_g
  • ...I still think that it was very weird to introduce her with the mystery of what taboo sex act she was into...

    Thank You.
    manhattnik
  • EnverEnver Toronto
    "Go stand in front of a fucking tank" to the Chinese guy.
    Michael
  • UnderwoodUnderwood Philadelphia, PA
    edited July 2015

    @bizmarkiefader After Ani was called out for sleeping with an underling and her married partner, she indicated a lack of remorse and didn't seem to understand that it was a problem. I was more appalled than amused that she was given that line about big dicks. It was laugh out loud bad like the blue balls line. I imagine she would get fired if she didn't complete the counseling session, so I doubt that is her intention. Evidence indicates that she is a sleaze like most of her comrades in the session.

    I don't want to mix up what you're saying, or put words in our mouth but
    did you believe that Ani was honestly talking about how much she likes
    big dick? I took it as she was just laying on the sarcasm thick and just
    playing all of the men in that room like a fiddle. Ani is just pissed
    about having to sit through this bullshit meeting and feels she doesn't have
    anything to learn from it, for better or worse.
    whatsthatreddotTravisEnver
  • @Underwood I have never heard a woman proclaim a desire for small packages so I do think that she was being honest. She could have shown her disdain for the process in another way but she turns the sleaze up to 11 and doesn't mind if the guys get off on it.
  • Can we talk a little bit about Frank's super casual racism? Last week we had two ethnic slurs, plus the condescending line to the farmer about his avocado trees. This week we have the Khe Sahn/Go stand in a front of a tank to the Mayor's Asian assistant, and his "Door's in the same place, amigo" retort to Santos' former associates.

    I'm guessing that it's supposed to show that his character is flawed and caught between wanting to be upper-class and his lower-class roots, but we're already getting that from his forced flowery language. So what's the point of it then? Just to be edgy?
  • bizmarkiefaderbizmarkiefader San Francisco
    edited July 2015
    @firewalker601 I have a really hard time buying that she was just being honest and wanted to tell the world about her love of gigantic dicks. It seemed clear she was fucking with either the facilitator, the other participants, or both. I just can't figure out what she was trying to accomplish and if it was supposed to be some sort of insight into her character, or if this is what PIzza considers a funny, lighthearted moment like the robot dick stuff.
    Travis
  • @bizmarkiefader I don't see why she can't be honest as well as titillate the other participants, thumb her nose at the therapist/system, derail the learning process for the others, disregard her own culpability, and be humorous at the same time.

    @painsofbeing I think the show is going overboard with Frank's racism. Maybe it is added edgy spice for the character, but it is a lot to ask of an audience to spend so much time with a main character that can be so unlikable. I'm not against villains but the show seems to want us to care about his plight without providing many, if any, redeeming qualities. Many shows have gone the subtle racism route like The Wire's Valchek. I like that character more than Frank.
    painsofbeing
  • I'm starting to think Birdman was actually Birdwoman. The woman with the scars could easily have overheard Frank or seen the address on the paper while she was serving them drinks. Maybe this group of perverts are the ones that scarred up her face and she's on a revenge mission. She races Ray to the house but doesn't kill him because she likes him, then she takes the hardrive. She gives a significant stare to Ani and Ray because she recognizes Ani from the news and is wondering if she can trust them to help her take these guys down.
    Garrison66TravistoddzillaDoctor_Nick
  • edited July 2015
    tom_g said:

    ...I still think that it was very weird to introduce her with the mystery of what taboo sex act she was into...

    Thank You.





    My money is on blumpkins.

    Underwood
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