[OFFICIAL] The Walking Dead 505 "Self Help"

The Walking Dead 505 "Self Help"

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  • FlukesFlukes Calgary, Canada
    I'm a little confused as to what Tara thought Eugene's motive was for the sabotage when he confessed it to her.

    It's possible I need to re-watch, but I didn't see how insecurity about his worth would adequately explain his actions without the added knowledge that he's not actually a scientist.

    "I sabotaged the bus."
    "Why?"
    "Because you guys wouldn't protect me if I wasn't a scientist."
    "Makes perfect sense."

  • That would have bothered me more if I thought Tara had two viable brain cells to rub together. Fist bump bro!
    I was also very confused at the end of the episode as a whole on the mullet man motivation. Why did he sabotage the bus?
    If they made it to VA with the quickness and there was a settlement I don't think it would have been that big of a deal that he lied to them. "I may have lied but look where this brought us!! I've saved us all like I said I would."
    If VA was a wreck he could say the mission was a loss. He would still have a value for 'Just knowing stuff'.

    BTW wife and I believe from his speech and walk M squared(Mullet Man) is on the spectrum.
  • FreddyFreddy Denton, Texas
    The only logical conclusion is for Abraham to be wearing a mullet skin cap by the time he meets back up with Rick.
  • I'm not sure if speculation is considered spoilers:
    I have a feeling Abraham's cut was a little more serious then just a cut. He might be tainted meat. That is why he was on the fast train to VA. Every time we get back story someone dies....
  • Going to mix it up here: I thought Z Nation was a much better episode this week that TWD, on a storytelling level. TWD has better acting, production values, plot/story arcs, etc. But Z Nation's bottle episode this week was much more compelling: isolating a few characters from the main pack, flashbacks to early days of the Z-apocalypse, a Groundhog Day-esque series of dreams. Maybe my expectations are so low for Z Nation that I can enjoy it's stupidity more than I can with TWD.
  • pavlovsbellpavlovsbell Brooklyn, NY

    I'm a little confused as to what Tara thought Eugene's motive was for the sabotage when he confessed it to her.

    I only watched it once, so I'm not sure how he stated it, but Eugene told Tara that he did not have a cure exactly, but more of an idea for a cure, and he wasn't sure if it would work so he needed more time to think about. Mostly I think Tara was identifying with him as another outsider like her, and she granted him the forgiveness and acceptance that had been bestowed upon her. Or...she bought his story because reasons.

    I think he sabotaged the bus because he saw how Rick & co. forgave Gabriel and he wanted to stay with them, and it was another way of staving off the inevitable. Also...reasons.
  • FlukesFlukes Calgary, Canada


    I only watched it once, so I'm not sure how he stated it, but Eugene told Tara that he did not have a cure exactly, but more of an idea for a cure, and he wasn't sure if it would work so he needed more time to think about.

    I definitely need to watch the scene again. That part of it didn't register in my brain at all. I'm still not sure it adds up, but I agree that Tara would be more inclined to pay forgiveness forward after talking to Maggie at the church.

    What he said may be surprisingly close to the truth. He wants more time to think. Not about a potential cure, but how to get out of the corner he's backing into as they get closer to DC.

    Of course, he eventually loses faith in his ability to come up with the solution when faced with even more deaths trying to plow through another herd of zombies.
  • FlukesFlukes Calgary, Canada
    Just re-watched the scene. Don't hear anything that really explains the Eugene's motivation (we find out later what it was) to Tara in the conversation after she catches him spying on A and R.

    He does sort of manage to turn the conversation toward questioning the group (and thus Tara's) altruism. Tara defends the group, Eugene sort of accepts her answer, and Fist-Bump doesn't realize he didn't explain himself.
  • Going to mix it up here: I thought Z Nation was a much better episode this week that TWD, on a storytelling level. TWD has better acting, production values, plot/story arcs, etc. But Z Nation's bottle episode this week was much more compelling: isolating a few characters from the main pack, flashbacks to early days of the Z-apocalypse, a Groundhog Day-esque series of dreams. Maybe my expectations are so low for Z Nation that I can enjoy it's stupidity more than I can with TWD.

    I'm starting to think that as far as world building and survival porn, at least, Z Nation is a better show... Though, Daryl Dixon getting smart with the ole distracting tactics.

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