Random things everyone knows but you just found out

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  • TaraC73 said:
    Dee said:
    My favourite episode of Everybody Loves Raymond (I know, I know, it’s my comfort watching when I’m sad or tired, shut up) is the one where Robert dates the lady who eats the fly and is obsessed with frogs. I must have seen that episode at least 20 times over the years. I only just realised this year that the joke is she is attracted to Robert because he kind of looks like a bullfrog. 
    I absolutely LOVE everybody loves Raymond! That episode is funny! I think my favorite episode is the one when Robert gets gored by a Bull in the ass  :D
    I love Everyone Loves Raymond too!
    My favorite episode is the one where they get back from vacation, and leave the suitcase on the stairs landing, and it turns into this super secret passive aggressive fight as to who's going to be the one to bring up and unpack the suitcase.   :D :D :D
    TaraC73
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    @TaraC73 Haha, I love it too. I know it’s just a formula sitcom that’s basically the same episode over and over, but I find it soothing, and I still laugh at stuff even though I’ve seen them all dozens of times. Aside from the fly lady one, my favourite episode is the one where Marie does the sculpture. 
    MichelleTaraC73
  • MichelleMichelle California
    edited October 2018
    TaraC73 said:
    Dee said:
    My favourite episode of Everybody Loves Raymond (I know, I know, it’s my comfort watching when I’m sad or tired, shut up) is the one where Robert dates the lady who eats the fly and is obsessed with frogs. I must have seen that episode at least 20 times over the years. I only just realised this year that the joke is she is attracted to Robert because he kind of looks like a bullfrog. 
    I absolutely LOVE everybody loves Raymond! That episode is funny! I think my favorite episode is the one when Robert gets gored by a Bull in the ass  :D
    I'm also a fan, although I haven't watched it in a long time.  I always liked the one with the tofu turkey on Thanksgiving and the one where Robert starts hanging out with Judy & her friends, clubbing & stuff ("What's happenin', my brotha???")  So cringeworthy and hilarious.  :lol:
    DeeTaraC73
  • I also used to pronounce chimney with a L and trophy too (trolphy) until someone finally corrected me in my 20s. I guess I thought there was a silent L??
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    Michelle said:
    TaraC73 said:
    Dee said:
    My favourite episode of Everybody Loves Raymond (I know, I know, it’s my comfort watching when I’m sad or tired, shut up) is the one where Robert dates the lady who eats the fly and is obsessed with frogs. I must have seen that episode at least 20 times over the years. I only just realised this year that the joke is she is attracted to Robert because he kind of looks like a bullfrog. 
    I absolutely LOVE everybody loves Raymond! That episode is funny! I think my favorite episode is the one when Robert gets gored by a Bull in the ass  :D
    I'm also a fan, although I haven't watched it in a long time.  I always liked the one with the tofu turkey on Thanksgiving and the one where Robert starts hanging out with Judy & her friends, clubbing & stuff ("What's happenin', my brotha???")  So cringeworthy and hilarious.  :lol:
    Oh, I forgot the Robert and Judy one! That’s my second favourite. Sorry, Marie - you’ve slipped to third. 
    MichelleTaraC73
  • Because of the news stories about the baseball announcer getting in trouble I was going to add to this list that "A chink in the armor" is racist. Then I looked it up and found out it isn't but because chink is an Asian racial slur now the phrase is racist.

    What the hell is going on here? Have we collectively as a people lost our minds and need to be offended by everything? This reminds me of the British people that use niggardly regularly who got in trouble a while back.

    I don't understand if a word has a meaning and is used correctly without any offence intended how it can be a bad thing and then that person is figuratively flogged in public and forced to apologize.

    Maybe we should just ban language an use hand signals? Although I'm of Italian heritage and could get in trouble there.
    majjam0770
  • cdrivecdrive Houston, TX
    edited October 2018
    ^This happened to Jeremy Lin too.  Funny coincidence that “chink in the armor” only magically gets used when talking about an Asian athlete. Yes I think it’s a racial slur and it shouldn’t be used.  Nothing turns sports journalists into medieval aficionados quicker than an Asian person making it to pro sports. 
    Dee
  • amyja89 said:
    For the longest time, I thought "The Boys are Back in Town" was by Billy Joel.
    Did you do that on purpose? For The Longest Time is a Billy Joel song.  :D
    I realized it after the fact, but I stand by it.
    amyja89
  • edited October 2018
    cdrive said:
    ^This happened to Jeremy Lin too.  Funny coincidence that “chink in the armor” only magically gets used when talking about an Asian athlete. Yes I think it’s a racial slur and it shouldn’t be used.  Nothing turns sports journalists into medieval aficionados quicker than an Asian person making it to pro sports. 
    The wife of the guy who said it is Asian. I sincerely doubt there was any slur intended on his part. I think intention is important. I'm guessing the phrase has gone unnoticed used on other players and announcers aren't saving it up to slur someone.

    EDIT: Error on my part. Not wife, his mother is part Chinese.
  • cdrivecdrive Houston, TX
    edited October 2018
    ^confused about your first sentence. Ron Darling’s wife?  Agreed intention is important.  I watch an ass ton of sports, and I assume you might as well.  C’mon man you never hear “chink in the armor” used. Like ever.  Strokes strike irrespective of race and you’ve seen rarely at times a news person suffering a stroke on live television and really that’s probably close to what happened with Ron.  Like a total brain fart. His mixed Asian descent helps him out here and he apologized so hopefully everyone can move on and learn a thing.  Huzzah.
  • edited October 2018
    cdrive said:
    ^confused about your first sentence. Ron Darling’s wife?  Agreed intention is important.  I watch an ass ton of sports, and I assume you might as well.  C’mon man you never hear “chink in the armor” used. Like ever.  Strokes strike irrespective of race and you’ve seen rarely at times a news person suffering a stroke on live television and really that’s probably close to what happened with Ron.  Like a total brain fart. His mixed Asian descent helps him out here and he apologized so hopefully everyone can move on and learn a thing.  Huzzah.

    Sorry, an error on my part. I meant his mother is part Chinese.

    I've used it myself interchangeably with Achilles heal and soft spot my whole life. When I do I always think of a hole in mail armor.

    As far as sports announcers I can't recall, not something I've ever paid attention to but announcers really annoy me anyway and don't pay attention to much they say to begin with. I think if there is a guy who uses that phrase only with Asian athletes then he should answer why that is. In this case he should never have been called out.

    I'm against banning words and phrases because of presumptions, I think it is wrong. There is an added benefit of letting people say whatever they want: it is easier to find the assholes and racists among you.
    cdrive
  • cdrivecdrive Houston, TX
    This is a long read but a good one I think you might like since it touches on some of the points you raised - http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/the_good_word/2012/02/chink_in_the_armor_jeremy_lin_why_it_s_time_to_retire_the_phrase_for_good_.html

  • cdrive said:
    This is a long read but a good one I think you might like since it touches on some of the points you raised - http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/the_good_word/2012/02/chink_in_the_armor_jeremy_lin_why_it_s_time_to_retire_the_phrase_for_good_.html

    It wasn't that long, fairly quick read. It brings up some interesting points but I'm still leaning towards taking peoples intent into account. Especially because the phrase and the origin of the slur likely seems to be homonym and homograph and have nothing to do with each other. I'll have to think about a while and see where my brain takes me.

    I'm also trying to think how much I hear younger people use the phrase, if ever, and it will take care of itself and slowly disappear.
  • KingKobra said:
    Indiana Jones and The Lost Ark is a movie where if the hero was removed there would be no change to the movie. 
    Incorrect title aside, I have heard this several times in the last few years, I think even on TV at least once. It's frustrating because it is, of course, completely untrue. Does no one remember the last two minutes of the movie or something?



    If Indy were removed the government wouldn't have the Ark and either the Nazis would have recovered it when none of the Nazis from the first group came back, or if they kept their location secret from their own government for some reason then it would just be lying there for anyone else to come find it. But it definitely wouldn't be secured in a giant warehouse by the government Top Men. 

    amyja89 said:
    Washington D.C. is NOT in Washington state.
    Fun fact: I live in Washington state and the media here calls D.C. "The Other Washington" haha
    TaraC73 said:
    Here is a SUPER DUPEE HUGELY embarrassing one: up until maybe 17-18 years ago, I didn’t realize that Alaska was so far North... I didn’t realize it is connected to Canada. I always thought it was connected to Washington state.  >:)
    It is in spirit... haha

    Seattle was the last stop before Alaska for a lot of people in the gold rush. It still is a hub for people traveling to Alaska. Seattle is the northernmost "big city" in the continental US. So we are kind of connected to Alaska in some weird way. But not physically, no.

    Here we almost never call it Washington, just DC or the district or DMV for the region. Now that I think of it I almost only hear of Washington being used to refer to the federal government rather than the geographic place. 

    Another fun fact: Alaska is the most northern, western, and eastern state in the country. 


    When I saw the last Avengers movie I didn't watch or read anything about the movie, so totally thought Thanos was Ron Perlman throughout the movie and after, until randomly seeing weeks later that it was Josh Brolin, and even then I just couldn't really believe it until I looked it up on IMDB. 

    And even now I still think of Thanos as Ron Perlman. I mean come on, good luck unseeing it:



  • @ghm3 the name was addressed. As far as the ending, I think most people would see the ending as the “climax” (open of ark) not the putting it in the warehouse. All a matter of perspective I guess. 
  • KingKobra said:
    @ghm3 the name was addressed. As far as the ending, I think most people would see the ending as the “climax” (open of ark) not the putting it in the warehouse. All a matter of perspective I guess. 
    I think most people would see the end of the movie as the end of the movie. This isn't some philosophical movie with multiple interpretations, it was just the end of the movie, and happens to prove this strange notion that he had no impact on anything that happens to be completely wrong. 
  • Regarding "chink in the armor", I don't think the phrase should be banned. It predates the slur anyway. It's probably impossible to know whether the people using it to refer to Jeremy Lin were being racist. My view is that there's a point where insults become so covertly-aggressive that it isn't worth taking them seriously as insults.
  • ghm3 said:
    KingKobra said:
    @ghm3 the name was addressed. As far as the ending, I think most people would see the ending as the “climax” (open of ark) not the putting it in the warehouse. All a matter of perspective I guess. 
    I think most people would see the end of the movie as the end of the movie. This isn't some philosophical movie with multiple interpretations, it was just the end of the movie, and happens to prove this strange notion that he had no impact on anything that happens to be completely wrong. 
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ otttaaayyyy
  • TaraC73TaraC73 Manchester NH
    Omg - I learned something new that apparently everyone already knows *within* the “random things everyone knows but you just found out” thread!

    The phrase really is “chink in the armor”? I’ve always said “kink in the armor”... 
    telephoneofmadness
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  • edited October 2018
    Yeah, banning "chink in the armor" seems like a step too far for me. There are several examples of common, normal words that also are/were used as racial slurs, such as spook, spade, and can we not say "spick and span" anymore?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not some free-speech warrior. Speech has consequences, etc.

    I just think it's a step too far to take issue with actual, common words with plenty of uses other than being a racial slur.
    TaraC73telephoneofmadness
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  • TaraC73TaraC73 Manchester NH
    Wait - Spick and span has racist connotations too!?! Oh my fucking LORD!!!!! I say that all the time to my kids when they’re cleaning. I always thought it came from the soap spick and span!!  :s
    telephoneofmadness
  • TravisTravis CA
    edited October 2018
    @TaraC73 No, from what I see it isn't rooted in racism. The word "Spick" is a racial slur (don't know the meaning in that context, but I know it has definite racist connotations), but the phrase is derived from a different meaning of that word.
    TaraC73darwinfeeshy
  • TaraC73TaraC73 Manchester NH
    Oh ok, thanks @Travis (spick as a racist term I believe is spelled spic and it’s a slur for mexicans) 
    Travis
  • MurderbearMurderbear Cold Spring, Ky
    I just learned it is CHAMPING at the bit, not chomping at the bit.
    FlukesMichelleTravis
  • I just learned it is CHAMPING at the bit, not chomping at the bit.
    Wait...WHAT?
    Flukes
  • MichelleMichelle California
    I just learned it is CHAMPING at the bit, not chomping at the bit.
    Are you *sure*?????  :hushed:
    FlukesMurderbear
  • I just figured out what TLDR stands for a couple days ago.
    DeeMichelleMurderbear
  • BrieanneBrieanne California
    Looks like both are technically correct:

    https://grammarist.com/usage/champing-chomping-at-the-bit/

    MurderbearMichelle
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