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  • cdrivecdrive Houston, TX
    Dee said:
    That kid is boss. Took that punch like nothing and just kept filming.  
  • cdrivecdrive Houston, TX
    Did y’all see the airport confrontation?  I love Aussie shittalking calling him a “shit c*nt” lol 
    Dee
  • Dee said:
    Love him, but couldn't it have been a brick? :)
    Dee
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    cdrive said:
    Dee said:
    That kid is boss. Took that punch like nothing and just kept filming.  
    Took a beating like a boss too, after Anning’s thuggish bogan groupies threw him to the ground in a chokehold and started kicking him. Massive over-reaction to an egg, but what’s to be expected of neo-Nazis? 
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    The murders in NZ is fucked. I’ve been a staunch supporter of gun laws on these forums for a while now. NZ is one of the only remaining 1st world countries that still allow semi automatics.

    i think this seriously proves the debate about gun control isn’t a mental, ideological or psychological issue.

    The people involved had no prior issues. There was no way to stop them from buying the guns. They would have passed any test. That is why we need to make this shit illegal. There’s no way to protect society without simply making mass murdering weapons illegal for all.  
    Dee
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    It’s devastating to read almost 50 people we’re killed. Here’s the facts.

    1. The number one reason these people were murdered was because of (an) evil, vile, racist, sadistic people (person) 
    2. The murderer(s) showed no prior mental or physiological issues. They would have had no issues getting licenses or permits for their weapons even if there was hard background check and mental illness tests
    3. New Zealand allowed the purchase of semi automatic weapons and weapons that could kill on a large scale quickly. 
    4. Because of 2 and 3. 1 was allowed to happen. And that is why gun control is critical. Because we cannot control when someone snaps or when someone decides to murder. What we can do is make sure we make it extremely hard for mass murdering weapons to become extremely difficult to obtain. 

    Glad NZ doesn’t need this to happen 5 times a year to make a common sense decision
  • Alkaid13Alkaid13 Georgia
    edited March 17
    I mean let’s not beat around the bush here, in 2015 NZ had 8 gun related deaths, meanwhile here in the US we had 13,000. This type of mass shooting in NZ is almost unheard of precisely due to their stricter gun laws and assuming they change their laws appropriately after this horrific incident they’ll almost certainly happen even less. There’s tons of evidence that weaker gun laws leads to more gun related deaths and more mass shootings. People can quibble all they want about how killers will always find ways to murder people but it’s a hell of a lot more difficult to walk into a place and kill 50 people with a knife than it is with a gun. As a country the US has more mass shootings than any other developed nation on the planet by an order of magnitudes, and it’s getting worse every year, but I guess that’s the price we have to pay so some people can stock up in case the government ever decides to crack down on our freedoms or something. The solution is pretty simple, ban more guns and we’ll have fewer mass shootings. 
    Hatorian
  • cdrivecdrive Houston, TX
    ^have you read the manifesto on why he did it?  Spoilers- it’s 2nd Amendment related.  
  • Newsflash - there has been a rise in fascism, and it has found it's way into various national governments.  Conservative parties defend these fascists.  In the US, the GOP is, at its core, a racist party.  Same is true in Europe, Australia, etc.

    Conservative voters need to come to grips, they either are racist, or voting for the wrong parties.


    Dee
  • I’m in a constant state of anxiety over Brexit and no I don’t have firsthand knowledge of any of it. Thinking of you, my U.K. brothers and sisters!
    telephoneofmadness
  • Kate23 said:
    I’m in a constant state of anxiety over Brexit and no I don’t have firsthand knowledge of any of it. Thinking of you, my U.K. brothers and sisters!
    Same. I’ve been trying to research more and more but it just makes me more and more nervous.
  • A good point Jim and A. Ron raise now and again is how lop sided justice is in the country. A man stealing $100 sneakers can be utterly destroyed. But a man stealing millions of dollars from thousands if not millions of people is untouchable.

    During the time a lone Australian gunman in New Zealand went on a shooting spree, officials in Israel launched 1 missile every 2min for 3hrs into Palestine. Hardly a whisper was made concerning that though. There are no greater murderers of Muslims than Dems/Reps in the US, EU, Israel, Saudi Arabia. Yet these same people put Christchurch on a pedestal, crying crocodile tears. People will be jailed for posting "memes", but those lobbying, and enriching themselves with acts of institutionalized mass murders are untouched. Worst, painted as progressive saints because of a PR stunt or two in response to the New Zealand killings. Today tears for the cameras, tomorrow more tomahawks and military aid.
    mft9186
  • The world is a fucked up place right now , and islamophobia is a thriving business since 9/11 . Maybe it's time to pass laws to criminalize islamophobia , anti-Semitism and hate speech in general . 
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    @mft9186 We have hate speech laws in Australia. It drives our shock jocks and Murdoch columnists crazy, although they still somehow seem to get away with saying a lot of heinous shit. 
    mft9186
  • Alkaid13Alkaid13 Georgia
    edited March 19
    If only there were some, oh I don’t know, Head of State type figure who could call for unity and harmony in these trying times instead of starting more anti-immigrant shit two days after a Muslim immigrant massacre. Boy, wonder what that world looks like. 
    mft9186
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    Well, somehow our arsehole conservative government managed to win an election yesterday - to the shock of everyone, as they were pretty much dead in the water. However, as usual the self funded retirees and cashed up middle class bogans showed they’d rather a government that holds a boot to the neck of the poor, the sick and the disabled than lose any of their tax breaks. 

    I work in government welfare and occasionally in government health, and I know what this government has been doing quietly behind the scenes to dismantle chunks of our social security and health systems. They want us to go the way of America, so they and their business mates can monetise health and welfare. They have already done a lot of damage and they can do a hell of a lot more in three years. They also have no plans to deal with climate change because the mining industry has them in their pockets (not that the opposition was much better on that score, but still). 

    I feel very disillusioned today about what an uncaring, short-sighted, selfish, greedy country we are. :-( 
    Giovanni
  • Kate23 said:
    I’m in a constant state of anxiety over Brexit and no I don’t have firsthand knowledge of any of it. Thinking of you, my U.K. brothers and sisters!
    I know this is an old comment, but it's my understanding that the UK can actually back out of Brexit at some point if there is no feasible plan. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
    telephoneofmadness
  • Dee said:

    I feel very disillusioned today about what an uncaring, short-sighted, selfish, greedy country we are. :-( 
    All that demonstrates is that there are humans in your country. Most humans are self serving idiots. I wish I had some answers but I don't. I don't know what form of government is the answer but I am damn sure it isn't socialism or capitalism. Looking forward to the AI run government SciFi authors have been writing about recently. Then we can blame computers and not people.
  • Doctor_NickDoctor_Nick Terminus
    Yep, except the Brexit party seems about to lead the field in the European elections the UK has been forced to participate in since it hasn't left yet.  Odds look grim.  

    CeciliaM said:
    Kate23 said:
    I’m in a constant state of anxiety over Brexit and no I don’t have firsthand knowledge of any of it. Thinking of you, my U.K. brothers and sisters!
    I know this is an old comment, but it's my understanding that the UK can actually back out of Brexit at some point if there is no feasible plan. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

  • edited May 29
    This mayor is measuring the amount of time male councillors vs women speak in meetings by changing the color (colour) of her knitting.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-city-council-gender-sue-montgomery-1.5135001
    CretanBull
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    On the 30th anniversary of Tiananmen Square, this is a two minute section of the half hour speech given by our then Prime Minister Bob Hawke at the time. His response is so emotional and heartfelt - it’s impossible to imagine a politician today crying about anything other than their own woes. He also immediately gave asylum to Chinese students who were studying in Australia. Seeing this kind of thing reminds me that once upon a time we really did have great politicians in the world. 

    https://youtu.be/6-zn_yNGdQo
  • CretanBullCretanBull Toronto
    CeciliaM said:
    This mayor is measuring the amount of time male councillors vs women speak in meetings by changing the color (colour) of her knitting.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-city-council-gender-sue-montgomery-1.5135001
    That's awesome!  I mean, it's horrible, but her project is awesome.  My dad was originally from Notre-Dame-de-Grâce  :)
    CeciliaM
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