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awookieeawookiee
edited August 19 in General
I got into fantasy football last year and the one league that I run I decided that I was going to let the winner of the league pick what position they want to draft in the following year, the 2nd place person gets the 2nd choice of where they draft and so on and so forth.  Well last year I actually did really well and took 2nd place so now I'm in the debate of where should I place myself in the draft order.  Any opinions on what you would choose and why would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

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  • rhcooprhcoop Knoxville, Tn
    awookiee said:
    I got into fantasy football last year and the one league that I run I decided that I was going to let the winner of the league pick what position they want to draft in the following year, the 2nd place person gets the 2nd choice of where they draft and so on and so forth.  Well last year I actually did really well and took 2nd place so now I'm in the debate of where should I place myself in the draft order.  Any opinions on what you would choose and why would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
    if you don't get the first pick, I would suggest being 4-5th if its a 10-12 team league.  Being stuck on the ends can be hard unless you have the first pick IMO. 
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    Given Zekes potential hold out and the assumption Barkley will go first I agree with maybe 4th or 5th. If the Zeke situation gets sorted before the draft then maybe you take 2nd and snag him. But if not you can get someone like McCraffrey or Kamara at 4 if it’s PPR. 
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    PPR id say it’s Barkley, Zeke, Kamara, McCaffrey. If it looks like Zeke will hold out then you might even want to take the 3rd pick. 
  • awookieeawookiee
    I should have clarified some of the details... It's a standard (no ppr) 8 team league with 1qb, 3rb, 3wr,1te,1flex,1d/st. 

    My thought process is going 3rd if Zeke holds out and 4th if Zeke doesn't hold out.  I think I want one of the top running backs (barkley, kamara, mccaffrey, elliott) and I personally don't think David Johnson is in the same category as those 4.
    Hatorian
  • rhcooprhcoop Knoxville, Tn
    I think picking there should be safe.

    I'd go with 3 RB's in the first 5 rounds, but that is because how often they touch the ball.  I wouldn't even touch a QB or TE before you fill your 3 rb, 3 wr and flex spots, but that is me. 
    awookieeHatorian
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    rhcoop said:
    I think picking there should be safe.

    I'd go with 3 RB's in the first 5 rounds, but that is because how often they touch the ball.  I wouldn't even touch a QB or TE before you fill your 3 rb, 3 wr and flex spots, but that is me. 
    I agree with the no QB and given you have 7 slots for RBs and WRs I also recommend going heavy on those. But if you can get one of Ertz, Kittle or Kelce at a decent round I’d pull the trigger. Those are the only 3 I’d say are worth drafting before round 8. Otherwise you should be able to get someone like Njuko in the 8th or 9th after you filled up. 
    rhcoop
  • awookieeawookiee
    I personally almost always stream a QB throughout the season unless someone I like drops far down the draft board.  And I play very similar in that regard for TEs unless one of the top 3 (Kelce, Kittle, Ertz) drop far enough I'll take someone with a much later pick. 

    Here's my other mental note, most leagues are a 12 man league with the standard roster (1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1FLEX, 1D/ST), our league is an 8 team league with that except 1 extra RB and WR which equals out to be the same exact number of starters of WR and RB as a standard 12 team league (24RBs and 24WRs).  
  • rhcooprhcoop Knoxville, Tn
    awookiee said:
    I personally almost always stream a QB throughout the season unless someone I like drops far down the draft board.  And I play very similar in that regard for TEs unless one of the top 3 (Kelce, Kittle, Ertz) drop far enough I'll take someone with a much later pick. 

    Here's my other mental note, most leagues are a 12 man league with the standard roster (1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1FLEX, 1D/ST), our league is an 8 team league with that except 1 extra RB and WR which equals out to be the same exact number of starters of WR and RB as a standard 12 team league (24RBs and 24WRs).  
    With a league that small I would HEAVILY lean on picking RB's in the 1st 4 rounds.  I'd shoot for 3 RB's in the first 4 and then pepper in WR's.  

    Some unknown or rookie WR always breaks out during the season and it's always important to have a lot of stud RB's IMO. 
    awookiee
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    Listening to Bill Simmons podcast with Matthew Berry and I’m a big fan of Bill Simmons but what a dick talking about how people who do snake drafts and PPR are losers. Like it might have been funny if he mentioned it once given his preference for auction but to literally call people losers 5 times in the podcast is just uncalled for. Way to talk shit about 90% of your fanbase...
    awookiee
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    There’s nothing smarter about being in an auction league. I’ve done auction leagues where people have spent more than half their salary on 2 players allowing others to basically steal players for below market value as people run out of money and are forced into $1 players to fill out 90% of their roster. The only cool thing about auction leagues is everyone has a shot at any player so the luck of where you draft is gone. But the big money leagues I’ve been in have been running for over a decade and the draft is snake but it’s decided on previous years record. Which is actually more like a real league than auction is. 
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    Anyways I’m getting too worked up about this. But honestly it’s pretty shitty to support a dude’s podcast for years and then he calls you a loser for not playing fantasy the same way he does.
  • awookieeawookiee
    Hatorian said:
    Anyways I’m getting too worked up about this. But honestly it’s pretty shitty to support a dude’s podcast for years and then he calls you a loser for not playing fantasy the same way he does.
    I definitely understand the appeal of auction leagues but I'm right with you, that's crazy that he basically just called a huge majority of his listeners losers because PPR is becoming way more popular than standard these days and I snake drafts are a huge majority of fantasy football leagues vs. auction. 

    On an update with my specific league, I had 2 more people reach out to join my league so now I'm sitting at a 10 team league.  I still think I'm going to try and snag the number 3 pick if Zeke really does hold out and the number 4 pick if he announces he's playing before my draft. 
  • bizmarkiefaderbizmarkiefader San Francisco
    The Simmons thing I think he was just fucking around, that felt more like he was poking people he knows personally and trying to get Berry to say something inflammatory so he could bring it up later. He's done that before with plenty of topics, like take a really strong stance in a half joking way to see how the guest responds to it.

    Since this is kind of a general fantasy thread at this point, anybody have recommendations for roster comp for a 6 team league? This is a higher stakes league for our office and we weren't able to get as many people as we usually do so we're stuck with this. I was thinking of trying out the super flex, and going 1QB/2RB/3WR/TE/(QB/RB/WR/TE). Either that or a straight up 2QB league with an extra WR or RB or both, it seems like a good idea to make quarterbacks a more relevant part of the draft given how important they are to the actual game.

  • awookieeawookiee
    bizmarkiefader said:
    The Simmons thing I think he was just fucking around, that felt more like he was poking people he knows personally and trying to get Berry to say something inflammatory so he could bring it up later. He's done that before with plenty of topics, like take a really strong stance in a half joking way to see how the guest responds to it.

    Since this is kind of a general fantasy thread at this point, anybody have recommendations for roster comp for a 6 team league? This is a higher stakes league for our office and we weren't able to get as many people as we usually do so we're stuck with this. I was thinking of trying out the super flex, and going 1QB/2RB/3WR/TE/(QB/RB/WR/TE). Either that or a straight up 2QB league with an extra WR or RB or both, it seems like a good idea to make quarterbacks a more relevant part of the draft given how important they are to the actual game.

    With only 6 teams I'd recommend expanding the rosters a fair amount.  I was going to have an 8 team league again this year until I had 2 more join and I was using a 1qb, 3rb, 3wr, 1te, 1flex, 1D/ST and I feel like that worked out really well.  Only having 6 teams I would kick around a 2qb, 3rb, 3wr, 1te, 2 flex.  Looks like you weren't using D/ST or regardless it doesn't really make much different.  That way it's a little closer to the size of a standard 12 team league.  I feel like the waiver wire would be absolute insanity with people streaming different positions, I'd even consider doing  2 tight ends as well. 
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    bizmarkiefader said:
    The Simmons thing I think he was just fucking around, that felt more like he was poking people he knows personally and trying to get Berry to say something inflammatory so he could bring it up later. He's done that before with plenty of topics, like take a really strong stance in a half joking way to see how the guest responds to it.

    Since this is kind of a general fantasy thread at this point, anybody have recommendations for roster comp for a 6 team league? This is a higher stakes league for our office and we weren't able to get as many people as we usually do so we're stuck with this. I was thinking of trying out the super flex, and going 1QB/2RB/3WR/TE/(QB/RB/WR/TE). Either that or a straight up 2QB league with an extra WR or RB or both, it seems like a good idea to make quarterbacks a more relevant part of the draft given how important they are to the actual game.

    Could be. He did seem like he was trying to get Berry to make a statement (he said it like 5 times) and Berry deftly avoided it every time cuz he’s not stupid and realised he has one job and one type of customer. Probably shouldn’t piss the majority of them off. 

    If you go standard 10 team standard roster you get 60 starting players at QB, RB, WR, and TE.
    76 at 12 teams. 

    so I would aim to keep the overall starters to around that 60-80. Anything more than that and guys are gonna have to start hoping for injuries. Just break it out from there. 


  • ChinaskiChinaski Santa Cruz, CA
    edited August 20
    who would you take if these 3 WR are available?

    Julio, Tyreek, or Juju?

    edit: and it's non-PPR btw
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    Guess 3 questions. 

    1. Was Julio’s last year an aberration or things to come 
    2. Is hill going to get suspended
    3. Can juju managed be wr1 and take on the best CB on the other team


  • ChinaskiChinaski Santa Cruz, CA
    Hatorian said:
    Guess 3 questions. 

    1. Was Julio’s last year an aberration or things to come 
    2. Is hill going to get suspended
    3. Can juju managed be wr1 and take on the best CB on the other team


    1. dunno
    2. no
    3. dunno
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    Then I go Hill. Non PPR he’s a deep threat so he’s not reliant on catching a million balls. He gets like a 4-132-1 line all the time. I had him last year and that seemed to be his solid game figure. 
    Chinaski
  • awookieeawookiee
    edited August 20
    Chinaski said:
    who would you take if these 3 WR are available?

    Julio, Tyreek, or Juju?

    edit: and it's non-PPR btw

    Tyreek has huge upside but he doesn't get the ball that often.  Will he be able to convert those 5 or 6 balls he catches into 100+ yards and touchdowns consistently?  Last year he had a 7 weeks in which he hit double digit fantasy points (I'm not counting week 17 because if you're smart fantasy football ends before then) which means 8 weeks he had single digit fantasy points.  (https://fantasydata.com/nfl/tyreek-hill-fantasy/18082)  That's too inconsistent for my liking but when he went off he was getting crazy high point totals, he got 25+ points 5 times last year.

    Juju is a huge question mark.  Nobody knows how he will do taking the number one cornerbacks and possibly being double covered.  There's too much uncertainty for me to be happy taking him at this point in the draft where all 3 of these guys are available.  

    I'm not sure how I feel about Julio.  He's clearly a top tier wideout but last year he was very inconsistent and really never had huge games.  I feel like one of these years they are going to realize that he's a threat in the redzone just as much as he is in the open field and his numbers will skyrocket but it just never happens.  Julio only scored 20+ once last year but was more consistently in the double digit point range (https://fantasydata.com/nfl/julio-jones-fantasy/13291)

    Personally I'd take Tyreek Hill because his upside when he goes off is crazy.  He's going to have some dud games but hopefully the rest of the fantasy team can pick up the slack.
    Hatorian
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    JuJu primarily played slot last year and in PPR that was great. He caught 111 balls but only had 7 TDs with less yards than Hill. Now as the number 1 WR he’s probably going to catch the same or even more balls but since it’s non PPR that doesn’t matter. I’m keeping JuJu in a league as a 3rd round pick but that’s PPR and also because guys like Kamara and Chubb are being kept which means JuJu is probably going 2nd round latest in my league. Also Ben Rothslibeger is turning 38. 

    Ive soured on Julio. Especially with Ridley and the fact that Freeman should be healthy. 

    So back to my original suggestion. I’d go Hill. He might have some bad games but in non PPR he’s your best chance given he went almost 1500 yards on only 87 catches last year. 

    He’s the safest bet. 
    awookiee
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    The Simmons thing I think he was just fucking around, that felt more like he was poking people he knows personally and trying to get Berry to say something inflammatory so he could bring it up later. He's done that before with plenty of topics, like take a really strong stance in a half joking way to see how the guest responds to it.

    Since this is kind of a general fantasy thread at this point, anybody have recommendations for roster comp for a 6 team league? This is a higher stakes league for our office and we weren't able to get as many people as we usually do so we're stuck with this. I was thinking of trying out the super flex, and going 1QB/2RB/3WR/TE/(QB/RB/WR/TE). Either that or a straight up 2QB league with an extra WR or RB or both, it seems like a good idea to make quarterbacks a more relevant part of the draft given how important they are to the actual game.

    2QBs = 12

    3RBs = 18

    3WRs = 18

    2TEs = 12

    2flex = 12

    72 starters


    bizmarkiefader
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