[...] it’s definitely cool that Kate specifically asked to come back on to The Watch to tell those guys how much she enjoyed their coverage. That must have been such a cool moment for them.
Supposedly it was the only podcast on Mare that she listened to (just FYI for those who haven't listened). They did seem thrilled to have her on.
Real bummer how dismissive A. Ron has been of the whole thing but there were ultimately a handful of other great podcasts to make up for it.
This is one of the better season/series finales I’ve seen in a long time.
Yeah, I was kind of bummed that Bald Move didn't seem to like it very much. I guess it just isn't everybody's thing. I get that it doesn't push the same buttons as S1 of True Detective, but I thought that was a strength of the show. I'm a little tired of some tropes in this genre like Bad Guys being Good Cops and creepy murder cults.
This definitely goes with Broadchurch and Happy Valley on the list of shows in this genre that I love for being a little more grounded.
Real bummer how dismissive A. Ron has been of the whole thing but there were ultimately a handful of other great podcasts to make up for it.
This is one of the better season/series finales I’ve seen in a long time.
Yeah, I was kind of bummed that Bald Move didn't seem to like it very much. I guess it just isn't everybody's thing. I get that it doesn't push the same buttons as S1 of True Detective, but I thought that was a strength of the show. I'm a little tired of some tropes in this genre like Bad Guys being Good Cops and creepy murder cults.
This definitely goes with Broadchurch and Happy Valley on the list of shows in this genre that I love for being a little more grounded.
This show also resonated more with me than True Detective for those reasons, was more grounded and did a much better job developing the characters and the family/community relationships. The other shows rely more on psychological horror and puzzles, which I get that can be more appealing to some people. Even Sharp Objects which did a pretty good job with the family and community aspects still leaned more into the horror stuff.
Right on with the Happy Valley / Broadchurch comparison: I wonder if ARon had previously watched those type of shows his perspective and expectations would have been different. He always seems to be holding this show up to True Detective and to me they really don't have much in common. From early on in the first episode I was like "oh, this is a very personal British crime drama that's set in Pennsylvania, I can dig that."
Right on with the Happy Valley / Broadchurch comparison: I wonder if ARon had previously watched those type of shows his perspective and expectations would have been different. He always seems to be holding this show up to True Detective and to me they really don't have much in common. From early on in the first episode I was like "oh, this is a very personal British crime drama that's set in Pennsylvania, I can dig that."
Yeah, it sounded like he didn't find Mare to be an extremely likable character, which is understandable. In a lot of ways she was shut off from being likable in the beginning, though I found her sympathetic because I saw that she was trying to help and getting more shit than she deserved.
I definitely get the appeal of the shows that are closer to thrillers. They provide great atmosphere and usually center on interesting philosophical ideas, both of which I think genre fans enjoy. I certainly had a lot more fun with True Detective and Sharp Objects and found them to be more thrilling.
I just found Mare to be a much more meaningful experience. In terms of what I actually take away from a show and remember a few years from now, I'll take the somber sequence of Ryan running to his mom or the kitchen scene or the ascent to the attic any day over True Detective's conclusion of "it was just a bunch of evil crazy people being evil and crazy."
Real bummer how dismissive A. Ron has been of the whole thing but there were ultimately a handful of other great podcasts to make up for it.
This is one of the better season/series finales I’ve seen in a long time.
Yeah, I was kind of bummed that Bald Move didn't seem to like it very much. I guess it just isn't everybody's thing. I get that it doesn't push the same buttons as S1 of True Detective, but I thought that was a strength of the show. I'm a little tired of some tropes in this genre like Bad Guys being Good Cops and creepy murder cults.
This definitely goes with Broadchurch and Happy Valley on the list of shows in this genre that I love for being a little more grounded.
This show also resonated more with me than True Detective for those reasons, was more grounded and did a much better job developing the characters and the family/community relationships. The other shows rely more on psychological horror and puzzles, which I get that can be more appealing to some people. Even Sharp Objects which did a pretty good job with the family and community aspects still leaned more into the horror stuff.
Right on with the Happy Valley / Broadchurch comparison: I wonder if ARon had previously watched those type of shows his perspective and expectations would have been different. He always seems to be holding this show up to True Detective and to me they really don't have much in common. From early on in the first episode I was like "oh, this is a very personal British crime drama that's set in Pennsylvania, I can dig that."
Him continuing to say “This is no True Detective” every week was increasingly more maddening lol. It wasn’t trying to be True Detective. It also wasn’t trying to be The Leftovers or Halt and Catch Fire.
True Detective was an immaculately shot series that centered around the complete nonsensical nihilist bloviating of awful men and there was a dumb plot in the background that literally had people theorizing about Cthulhu monsters rising out of the sea to attack New Orleans or whatever the fuck people were talking about back then.
This show was nothing like True Detective and ultimately better for it.
It was just so nice to watch something in a long while that in a fucked up way felt so real and as wild as this sounds...so believable. They did this is in only 7 episodes and poof...done. That’s a hard arc to resolve so to me this was really impressive. It’s going to get a lot of awards.
Finally got around to this and ehhhh. @lengmo is right that it’s reminiscent of British crime shows. In fact, I feel like the writer just sat and watched a bunch of them and went “I can take this bit from here, and this bit from here...”
Overall, it was fine. I don’t like Kate Winslet as a person but I grudgingly admit she’s a very good actress, Jean Smart is MVP of everything she is in, Angourie Rice is a talented up-and-comer, Evan Peters was surprisingly good, and I don’t even know why Guy Pearce was there because his character just seemed pointless. Actually, I do know why he was there - to make you wonder if he was going to end up being the killer.
And because I have watched eleventy million British crime shows, I was able to spot the killer fairly early on, although admittedly from then on I occasionally wavered wondering if it was Lori rather than her son.
I don’t like Kate Winslet as a person but I grudgingly admit she’s a very good actress [...] I don’t even know why Guy Pearce was there because his character just seemed pointless. Actually, I do know why he was there - to make you wonder if he was going to end up being the killer.
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It was a decent show, nothing amazing.
It sure is no True Detective :-)
Guy Pearce was a last-minute replacement for the original actor so he may have brought star power (and thus extra speculation about his character) to an otherwise minor role.
I imagine if you don't like Kate Winslet this show would be hard to like because her character is pretty unlikable for the first few episodes.
I'm sure watching week by week instead of binging and listening to the coverage on The Watch (and to a lesser extent, Still Watching) helped me appreciate the show more than I would have otherwise. Parts of the first episode in particular, showing us Erin's Shitty Life Among The Mean People Of Easttown, is poverty porn I have no interest in watching. Mostly my interest in seeing a US take on British crime dramas kept me going. Then the performances and the insights from the podcasts helped me enjoy the show. In the end I feel the show earned its place alongside well-regarded British crime dramas, in part because they are flawed too.
Also my wife 2 days ago had a work interaction with someone from there and she asked her about Wawa hoagies. This lady closed her eyes and started fanning her neck talking about how she has had them shipped to her.
Also my wife 2 days ago had a work interaction with someone from there and she asked her about Wawa hoagies. This lady closed her eyes and started fanning her neck talking about how she has had them shipped to her.
This seems crazy to me. I really don't think the hoagies are anything special. Wawa is great cause you can get a decent quick (most times) hoagie for like six bucks (cheaper during Hoagiefest) at a convenience store. But if you go to pretty much any hoagie/pizza shop in the greater Philadelphia area they have fresh Amoroso or Liscio rolls and you can get a much better hoagie for a little more money.
Wawa used to have this and real deli meat years ago. Now they have weird par-baked Amoroso rolls and the deli meat is meh.
https://youtu.be/Xo5S13vFreM Julianne Nicholson speaks to Variety about Jean Smart, Kate Winslet's professionalism, and playing Lori on Mare of Easttown.
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This definitely goes with Broadchurch and Happy Valley on the list of shows in this genre that I love for being a little more grounded.
I definitely get the appeal of the shows that are closer to thrillers. They provide great atmosphere and usually center on interesting philosophical ideas, both of which I think genre fans enjoy. I certainly had a lot more fun with True Detective and Sharp Objects and found them to be more thrilling.
I just found Mare to be a much more meaningful experience. In terms of what I actually take away from a show and remember a few years from now, I'll take the somber sequence of Ryan running to his mom or the kitchen scene or the ascent to the attic any day over True Detective's conclusion of "it was just a bunch of evil crazy people being evil and crazy."
Overall, it was fine. I don’t like Kate Winslet as a person but I grudgingly admit she’s a very good actress, Jean Smart is MVP of everything she is in, Angourie Rice is a talented up-and-comer, Evan Peters was surprisingly good, and I don’t even know why Guy Pearce was there because his character just seemed pointless. Actually, I do know why he was there - to make you wonder if he was going to end up being the killer.
https://twitter.com/farfarraway/status/1402958419976507392?s=21
Also my wife 2 days ago had a work interaction with someone from there and she asked her about Wawa hoagies. This lady closed her eyes and started fanning her neck talking about how she has had them shipped to her.
Wawa used to have this and real deli meat years ago. Now they have weird par-baked Amoroso rolls and the deli meat is meh.
Julianne Nicholson speaks to Variety about Jean Smart, Kate Winslet's professionalism, and playing Lori on Mare of Easttown.