Just got done listening to instant cast. Wasnt ROTC douche bag the Congress womans son. Doesnt mean that she hasnt needed to keep him in check so he doesnt uprise but I wasnt sure if A Ron and Jim realized that after first watch.
I really like this episode as well. It may have been a little slow, but it set up so much. So many interesting new threads were presented. I love how true to the characters the episode was, and I love the way they went about it. The interviews were a very cool way of getting into the characters heads. I'm pretty excited for Rick and Michonne: Buddy Cops! I wonder how long until Rick has to beat up Jessie's husband for being a drunk douche.
Carol was AWESOME! I was totally cracking up at the whole "helpless den mother" routine. I love it! Particularly, as you noted, even before the interview where she tries to demurely hand off that giant fucking rifle. It was so good, and so totally Carol. The way that they could provide some great comic relief while staying true to her character was both impressive and really great for the episode, and I guess that gets to one of the roots of why I liked this a lot. They managed to make a very good, compelling episode without relying too much on a ton of action. I think they did a good job of showing how these people would react to the possibility of peace, and I think exploring that side is incredibly important for the show. Michonne had mentioned that they've been out there too long, and in a way as a viewer I agree. When the group starts to lose all of it's ties to the civilized world the characters also have less to react to on a non-action level. Jim and A.Ron mentioned during last week's cast about how they just don't seem to have much to talk about, and that is bad for the show and it makes all of the characters blend together. Now we have a whole new stimulus to diversify them, and it's already paying off in a big way. I'm also very interested to see know more about Deanna. She's interesting and hard to predict and already an incredibly promising character. I hope this plays out for a while because I think that there is a lot you can do to enrich and reinvigorate the characters. They've given us so many possibilities. A whole new set of parameters and a whole ratty sweaters-worth of threads. I'm really excited and I'm impressed.
I'm glad to see other people liked the episode like I did. At first the thread started out with negative opinions and I was a bit bummed out about that. I think this will definitely lead to more interesting storylines down the road. The show was getting way too repetitive and boring with the same old story being told over and over. I can't wait to see how they try to reintegrate into a "society".
I still want to see Rick and Michonne hook up, too. I was so hoping Michonne would be the one to cut Rick's hair, not that blonde lady. I really hope they don't end up pairing Rick with her instead!
AmbitiousBukky said:Why does everyone hate on poor Noah?! LOL I don't think he lied about his injury to Aaron in the last episode, he was limping at the hospital when he met Doodlebug. He aggravated when he jumped but I'm pretty sure he told Beth that he was saved and fixed up while his dad was left behind, presumably because he was the weaker of the two.
AmbitiousBukky said:Like everyone said, Carol's shtick is pure genius. I didn't even connect why she fumbled with the gun earlier until we got to her interview. She is THINKING on her feet!
Like everyone said, Carol's shtick is pure genius. I didn't even connect why she fumbled with the gun earlier until we got to her interview. She is THINKING on her feet!
A_Ron_Hubbard said:...The only thing I'm unsure of is the "stupid teenager plot" that shows like this seem to love to explore, but I'd still care if somehow they can involve Carl and not make him out to be an idiot. As far as I'm concerned, the viability of those kind of plots died with the 128 oz can of chocolate pudding.
Travis said: A_Ron_Hubbard said:...The only thing I'm unsure of is the "stupid teenager plot" that shows like this seem to love to explore, but I'd still care if somehow they can involve Carl and not make him out to be an idiot. As far as I'm concerned, the viability of those kind of plots died with the 128 oz can of chocolate pudding.
I totally agree with this. It's just such a played out angle in general. I literally stopped watching Homeland as soon as they started to play up the "dumb, confused teenager" plot with Brody's daughter. Homeland Season 2 Spoiler: They killed that dude in the car accident and I have no idea what happened later because I said "fuck this, this is stupid" and never turned it back on. I have very, very little tolerance for it. I get it, teenagers make bad decisions and it creates a lot of drama, but in a show like TWD there are so many more potent stories to tell there is just no room for it. I guess I simply think grown-ups are much, much more interesting. Especially because, it's the zombie apocalypse dude, put the big boy pants on. Also, if they make Carl an idiot he's been out there. He knows better. I suppose thinking about it, you've got kids that are sheltered playing video games behind huge walls. You could justify it, but God can you imagine how much of a waste of good airtime that would be. I can see it already "the two boys want to do something dumb and reckless and the girl is coming too and Carl doesn't want to alienate himself from the girl he likes and the only peers that he has so he doesn't tell the grown-ups that they're sneaking over the wall to go get drunk in the woods. One of the kids is now in peril... and knowing is half the battle" Jesus, I'm watching the Walking Dead, not a Kirk Cameron ABC Family special.
TaraC73 said: AmbitiousBukky said:Like everyone said, Carol's shtick is pure genius. I didn't even connect why she fumbled with the gun earlier until we got to her interview. She is THINKING on her feet!
My first reaction to her fumbling was that she was still hurting from getting hit by the car. But then it all came together. Very smart Carol.