I don't really know, but I suspect that you're right about him targeting certain women who have a lower risk factor in terms of people going after him. Also, the influence that he had over his victims careers can't be underestimated. He was the biggest star at the CBC and had a 'golden boy' reputation. A lot of his victims were university students who were doing co-op internships at the CBC. He'd been inappropriate with so many students over the years that two major schools (York University and Carlton University) both ended their internship agreement with the CBC...but no one did anything to stop the problem. Another factor was that he was charming, handsome and a celebrity. He didn't hide in bushes at 2am and jump out at these women, they wanted to be with him. When he went too far during sex, his victims didn't immediately self-identify as being raped...these women questioned themselves, wondered if they'd 'asked for it' etc. the stigma of rape is so strong that it's sometimes easier for the victim to rationalize what happened than to identify with having been raped.
As for the how the justice system deals with these types of questions, we don't have an answer. This case happened two years ago and every nuance of the case has been picked apart and the court system still doesn't have a means of dealing with it. That's a major reason why most rapes aren't even reported...the victim has their life publicly torn apart and in the end there's a relatively low conviction rate.
Well that's the hell of it. cases of an unknown stranger raping women as part of a crime or burglary is a clear cut case, that attracts no controversy at all.
if a guy drugs a woman with like GHB or something that's pretty clear cut.
when we're talking about these cases that are he-said she-said as between people who know each other, and usually the chain of events leading to the alleged act look like a normal hook-up is where the criminal justice system falls apart at handling it.
When you start talking cases like "one party crossed x boundary during the act and then the willing sex became non-consensual" I mean that meets all elements of the crime, it's a rape on a law school exam, but outside of law school where you have to prove to people (who took an oath that basically tells them to be skeptical) its a whole different matter proving it.
what I want to know is if this guy with this history is living in my country, why did Immigration approve his visa? you don't need to be convicted for an immigration officer to determine you inadmissable as a public safety risk.
I can't see the second point being true because I don't think that Mueller is gunning for Trump (Mueller is a Republican). I think he's a pretty honest guy who's going to go where the evidence takes him, but I don't think he has a particular motive or end-goal in mind.
He may not be gunning for Trump (I think he is but I could be wrong) but I'm sure Mueller is worried about interference from the executive branch and would think about how to neutralize it.
To date nothing solid has materialized against Trump, The story and investigation blew open paperwork violations by Flynn and Manafort, but the acts those two were doing were not illegal, it was the manner in which they reported them. Nothing is illegal about Manafort collecting foreign money to lobby for foreign interests, it's lobbying while not registered as a foreign agent that's illegal. I don't see any evidence Trump was involved in Manafort's foreign lobbying, and so Manafort will likely go down for these paperwork violations but none of that is really transferable.
If it's Manafort, Trump will side step it. If its Flynn, there could be some heat. In the unlikely event that it's Kushner or Don Jr he's done.
I think it depends on the charges. If Manafort or Flynn are charged with money laundering, perjury, failing to disclose-type violations it will be easy for 45 to distance himself. If there are espionage charges, FARA violations, or even something akin to treason, 45 will be gone by Friday.
I read over the summer someone spitballing the idea that Mueller would force 45's resignation by indicting Kushner, Don Jr., or Ivanka--"Resign or your little girl and your namesake are going away for 30 years each." It's maybe dirty pool a little bit, but it would be a legal (allowed) tactic on a prosecutor's behalf.
No, that's actually not legal especially if there's no indictable case against the persons being threatened.
That could be considered blackmail.
FARA charges won't mean anything as far as Trump goes, Manafort's failure to register as a foreign agent is his crime alone.
So it's Manafort, which I think a lot would have guessed, plus two other former campaign officials/advisors (one pled guilty to lying to the FBI).
Nothing to do with the campaign or Russian election interference, so nothing that will stick on Trump much at the moment.
However, having 3 people involved with the campaign (including the campaign manager at the time of the convention) isn't a great look, and the indictment says the money laundering continued through at least 2016, so doesn't rule out the possibility that they were still acting in the interest of foreign "clients" when advising the Trump campaign.
I can't see the second point being true because I don't think that Mueller is gunning for Trump (Mueller is a Republican). I think he's a pretty honest guy who's going to go where the evidence takes him, but I don't think he has a particular motive or end-goal in mind.
He may not be gunning for Trump (I think he is but I could be wrong) but I'm sure Mueller is worried about interference from the executive branch and would think about how to neutralize it.
To date nothing solid has materialized against Trump, The story and investigation blew open paperwork violations by Flynn and Manafort, but the acts those two were doing were not illegal, it was the manner in which they reported them. Nothing is illegal about Manafort collecting foreign money to lobby for foreign interests, it's lobbying while not registered as a foreign agent that's illegal. I don't see any evidence Trump was involved in Manafort's foreign lobbying, and so Manafort will likely go down for these paperwork violations but none of that is really transferable.
So one plea deal so far. More to come??
Trump charges will be money laundering via real estate deals with Russians. These deals, along with golden shower tapes, are the leverage that make Trump a Russian asset. Obstruction too, clearly. Conspiracy too. Might take a few more months.
This statement describes yet another attempt by a campaign staffer to conspire with Russia to obtain dirt on HRC, and Papadopoulos has pled guilty to a charge of lying to the FBI. The question now isn't whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia; the question is the same as it was 40 years ago: What did the president know, and when did he know it?
The charges against Manafort are much more serious than I'd thought they'd be, it could be he's being over-charged to put pressure on him to flip....I don't think any of the Manafort or Gates stuff hurts Trump in anyway, unless they know things and flip for a deal. The Papadapoulos stuff is way more threatening to Trump and that seems to be getting the least amount of coverage.
The charges against Manafort are much more serious than I'd thought they'd be, it could be he's being over-charged to put pressure on him to flip....I don't think any of the Manafort or Gates stuff hurts Trump in anyway, unless they know things and flip for a deal. The Papadapoulos stuff is way more threatening to Trump and that seems to be getting the least amount of coverage.
Or, this whole thing has been a waste of time from the start, has revealed only paperwork issues by principals other then the purported subject of the investigation and thus Mueller needs to prove it wasn't a waste of time to begin with. Because nothing of this is in any way related to the initial allegations, none of it points to criminal activity by Trump, and none of it shows actual coordinated intereference with an election
The charges against Manafort are much more serious than I'd thought they'd be, it could be he's being over-charged to put pressure on him to flip....I don't think any of the Manafort or Gates stuff hurts Trump in anyway, unless they know things and flip for a deal. The Papadapoulos stuff is way more threatening to Trump and that seems to be getting the least amount of coverage.
Or, this whole thing has been a waste of time from the start, has revealed only paperwork issues by principals other then the purported subject of the investigation and thus Mueller needs to prove it wasn't a waste of time to begin with. Because nothing of this is in any way related to the initial allegations, none of it points to criminal activity by Trump, and none of it shows actual coordinated intereference with an election
I've said from the get-go that I very, very, very seriously doubt Trump's involvement in any of this, but if the investigation doesn't link anything to him it won't be a waste if it puts to rest people's fear that the President is a traitor. Whatever gets uncovered a long the way is important too...Clinton was impeached for lying about an affair during an investigation about real estate holdings. I expected the Manafort stuff to be a bunch of nothing ("paperwork issues" as you put it), but the charges are far more serious than that. The Papadopoulos stuff is far more threatening to the administration - probably not Trump himself, but others around him - Don Jr? Kushner? - should be worried.
If you haven't read about this, the allegations are that women show up for photo ops and he will make a joke about his favorite book being "David Cop-A-Feel" and grab their behinds. These have been happening in the past few years when he has been in his 90s and in his wheelchair. His spokesperson put out a statement saying something like (paraphrasing) Bush sits in a wheelchair so his arm is lower and he thought it was a funny joke, and some people think it's funny, but others were apparently offended, and for that he is sorry.
I'm really, genuinely glad that women can speak out more and more about sexual harrassment and assault nowadays because I remember a time when that wasn't the case, and it wasn't so long ago. But I am having a hard time ginning up any outrage about an elderly man making corny jokes and pinching butts during photo ops. Please feel free to argue with me but I just kind of give elderly people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their behavior and what they say. In another setting or by a younger man, I would be totally outraged but in these cases, I am just kind of like... really.
The charges against Manafort are much more serious than I'd thought they'd be, it could be he's being over-charged to put pressure on him to flip....I don't think any of the Manafort or Gates stuff hurts Trump in anyway, unless they know things and flip for a deal. The Papadapoulos stuff is way more threatening to Trump and that seems to be getting the least amount of coverage.
Or, this whole thing has been a waste of time from the start, has revealed only paperwork issues by principals other then the purported subject of the investigation and thus Mueller needs to prove it wasn't a waste of time to begin with. Because nothing of this is in any way related to the initial allegations, none of it points to criminal activity by Trump, and none of it shows actual coordinated intereference with an election
Ah, yes, receiving $75 million from a foreign government, stashing it in offshore accounts and not declaring a cent of it, either in terms of the source or of taxes: a "paperwork issue." Question: at which point does tax evasion and money laundering stop being just a "paperwork issue?" Or is this something that can only be decided after seeing if there is a D or an R next to the name?
... Or is this something that can only be decided after seeing if there is a D or an R next to the name?
I fear this is the case. Can you imagine the outcry from the right if President Hillary Clinton's campaign manager was indicted for conspiracy against the united states?
For the record, it looks like there are some democrats that will also see the inside of a courtroom in this case. I am perfectly fine with that. Country before party. I would even welcome President Pence at this point.
Trump IS involved - he fired Comey, and told Lester Holt he did so because of the Russian investigation. He did not want the indictments of his colleagues and/or himself. Obstruction.
He might be able to pardon himself on that charge.
NY may get him for laundering - if so, he is going to prison.
For the record, it looks like there are some democrats that will also see the inside of a courtroom in this case. I am perfectly fine with that. Country before party. I would even welcome President Pence at this point.
I support whatever the evidence shows and anyone who did anything to undermine democracy can rot in jail for the rest of their lives.
Trump IS involved - he fired Comey, and told Lester Holt he did so because of the Russian investigation. He did not want the indictments of his colleagues and/or himself. Obstruction.
He might be able to pardon himself on that charge.
NY may get him for laundering - if so, he is going to prison.
It's hard for me to defend Trump because I think so lowly of him I have a hard time putting it into words. Having said that I *think* the Comey firing might have happened because Trump genuinely believed in his own innocence and thought that he was being unfairly tarnished. Which is still obstruction, but it's obstruction that stems from his own stupidity rather than trying to cover up anything being revealed about his actions...or at least his personal actions, I'd believe that he might have been trying to protect Don Jr or Kushner.
If the right is going to use the paperwork issue talking point, how can they also maintain this Clinton/Uranium One talking point simultaneously?
That was the approval of an equity transaction between a Russian company and a Canadian Company, linked through donations to the Clinton’s charity. Can’t get much more paper-worky.
The charges against Manafort are much more serious than I'd thought they'd be, it could be he's being over-charged to put pressure on him to flip....I don't think any of the Manafort or Gates stuff hurts Trump in anyway, unless they know things and flip for a deal. The Papadapoulos stuff is way more threatening to Trump and that seems to be getting the least amount of coverage.
Or, this whole thing has been a waste of time from the start, has revealed only paperwork issues by principals other then the purported subject of the investigation and thus Mueller needs to prove it wasn't a waste of time to begin with. Because nothing of this is in any way related to the initial allegations, none of it points to criminal activity by Trump, and none of it shows actual coordinated intereference with an election
Ah, yes, receiving $75 million from a foreign government, stashing it in offshore accounts and not declaring a cent of it, either in terms of the source or of taxes: a "paperwork issue." Question: at which point does tax evasion and money laundering stop being just a "paperwork issue?" Or is this something that can only be decided after seeing if there is a D or an R next to the name?
If the underlying act would've been legal had it been properly handled. This is one of those things where Manafort was running a scam on the Government and then a Russia narrative sucked him in to an investigation. Remember always keep your personal life clean, you never know when the authorities might actually start paying attention to you.
The charges against Manafort are much more serious than I'd thought they'd be, it could be he's being over-charged to put pressure on him to flip....I don't think any of the Manafort or Gates stuff hurts Trump in anyway, unless they know things and flip for a deal. The Papadapoulos stuff is way more threatening to Trump and that seems to be getting the least amount of coverage.
Or, this whole thing has been a waste of time from the start, has revealed only paperwork issues by principals other then the purported subject of the investigation and thus Mueller needs to prove it wasn't a waste of time to begin with. Because nothing of this is in any way related to the initial allegations, none of it points to criminal activity by Trump, and none of it shows actual coordinated intereference with an election
Ah, yes, receiving $75 million from a foreign government, stashing it in offshore accounts and not declaring a cent of it, either in terms of the source or of taxes: a "paperwork issue." Question: at which point does tax evasion and money laundering stop being just a "paperwork issue?" Or is this something that can only be decided after seeing if there is a D or an R next to the name?
If the underlying act would've been legal had it been properly handled. This is one of those things where Manafort was running a scam on the Government and then a Russia narrative sucked him in to an investigation. Remember always keep your personal life clean, you never know when the authorities might actually start paying attention to you.
Ah, yes. It's all just a massive coincidence that Manafort laundered Russian money, that Russia hacked the operatives for the campaign that he was going up against, and that his campaign took the most pro Russia stance in American electoral history. Total nothingburger that people are reaching here, Im sure.
I don’t think that anyone is shocked that Manafort is dirty, and has been for a long time. The wisdom of hiring him and elevating him to campaign chairman is questionable at best, and someone obviously got in Trump’s ear to correct it since they disposed of him before the election and now they pretend like he was never really part of the organization.
He will roll-over and spill whatever dirt he may have to try to avoid prison. That could be interesting, but the Papadopoulos stuff could be far more interesting with his already having cut a deal and potentially having been wired for as long as 7-8mos as part of his proactive cooperation.
Trump has as much to fear with possibly-questionable past business dealings as the “Russia stuff.” Real estate can be a dirty business and he’s been doing it for a long time.
So 8 people (so far) killed in New York as a guy runs over bikers on a trail. Multiple outlets have said he jumped out yelling Allah Akbar and started shooting.
Honestly, I am surprised these attacks don't happen more often. During 2015-2016 in Israel it seemed that Palestinians were driving their cars into civilians almost daily. They were actually killing Arabs on accident at times because they just rammed into bus stops hoping to kill Jews whether they were a man, woman, child, or elderly.
The left will come in and say it isn't Islam, which it is, and the right will come in and say this is why we need bans from Islamic countries, which won't make a difference. These attacks are hard to stop or avoid unfortunately. Glad NYPD shot him.
Apparently (last I read anyway) his guns were fake...it was a murder/suicide, he held fake guns to prompt the NYPD to shoot him.
It really isn't about Islam though, no more so than the IRA was about Christianity. Lots of people (left and right) want to blame religion, but religion is the excuse not the reason for the attacks. If religion didn't exist, terrorism still would. Terrorism is the action of last resort among people who feel desperate and powerless in the face of a foe that can't beat on the battle field. These "lone wolf" attacks are almost certainly done by emotionally unstable and/or sensitive people who profoundly relate to the suffering of their fellow Muslims. All of the images that our nightly news won't show on TV, are the images that theses people feast on via the internet and they feel powerless to help...and then find a way through terrorism. And the fact that their point of connection to the suffering is sympathy for fellow Muslims, doesn't make it about religion...if it wasn't these people for that reason, it would be other people for another reason.
The Islamic Faith has been around longer than America, but Islamic terrorism has only been a problem for America in the last 15 years or so. If it was "about Islam" you'd have known about it long before 9/11.
Apparently (last I read anyway) his guns were fake...it was a murder/suicide, he held fake guns to prompt the NYPD to shoot him.
It really isn't about Islam though, no more so than the IRA was about Christianity. Lots of people (left and right) want to blame religion, but religion is the excuse not the reason for the attacks. If religion didn't exist, terrorism still would. Terrorism is the action of last resort among people who feel desperate and powerless in the face of a foe that can't beat on the battle field. These "lone wolf" attacks are almost certainly done by emotionally unstable and/or sensitive people who profoundly relate to the suffering of their fellow Muslims. All of the images that our nightly news won't show on TV, are the images that theses people feast on via the internet and they feel powerless to help...and then find a way through terrorism. And the fact that their point of connection to the suffering is sympathy for fellow Muslims, doesn't make it about religion...if it wasn't these people for that reason, it would be other people for another reason.
The Islamic Faith has been around longer than America, but Islamic terrorism has only been a problem for America in the last 15 years or so. If it was "about Islam" you'd have known about it long before 9/11.
I said aloud, "God help us," as I was reading this, because we are guilty of a great many things, yet innocent of a great many things.
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[Lawrence and Ali watch as British cannons fire in the distance]
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if a guy drugs a woman with like GHB or something that's pretty clear cut.
when we're talking about these cases that are he-said she-said as between people who know each other, and usually the chain of events leading to the alleged act look like a normal hook-up is where the criminal justice system falls apart at handling it.
When you start talking cases like "one party crossed x boundary during the act and then the willing sex became non-consensual" I mean that meets all elements of the crime, it's a rape on a law school exam, but outside of law school where you have to prove to people (who took an oath that basically tells them to be skeptical) its a whole different matter proving it.
what I want to know is if this guy with this history is living in my country, why did Immigration approve his visa? you don't need to be convicted for an immigration officer to determine you inadmissable as a public safety risk.
That could be considered blackmail.
FARA charges won't mean anything as far as Trump goes, Manafort's failure to register as a foreign agent is his crime alone.
Nothing to do with the campaign or Russian election interference, so nothing that will stick on Trump much at the moment.
However, having 3 people involved with the campaign (including the campaign manager at the time of the convention) isn't a great look, and the indictment says the money laundering continued through at least 2016, so doesn't rule out the possibility that they were still acting in the interest of foreign "clients" when advising the Trump campaign.
Trump charges will be money laundering via real estate deals with Russians. These deals, along with golden shower tapes, are the leverage that make Trump a Russian asset. Obstruction too, clearly. Conspiracy too. Might take a few more months.
President Pence - Jesus.
This statement describes yet another attempt by a campaign staffer to conspire with Russia to obtain dirt on HRC, and Papadopoulos has pled guilty to a charge of lying to the FBI. The question now isn't whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia; the question is the same as it was 40 years ago: What did the president know, and when did he know it?
Ah, yes, receiving $75 million from a foreign government, stashing it in offshore accounts and not declaring a cent of it, either in terms of the source or of taxes: a "paperwork issue."
Question: at which point does tax evasion and money laundering stop being just a "paperwork issue?" Or is this something that can only be decided after seeing if there is a D or an R next to the name?
He might be able to pardon himself on that charge.
NY may get him for laundering - if so, he is going to prison.
That was the approval of an equity transaction between a Russian company and a Canadian Company, linked through donations to the Clinton’s charity. Can’t get much more paper-worky.
Ah, yes. It's all just a massive coincidence that Manafort laundered Russian money, that Russia hacked the operatives for the campaign that he was going up against, and that his campaign took the most pro Russia stance in American electoral history. Total nothingburger that people are reaching here, Im sure.
He will roll-over and spill whatever dirt he may have to try to avoid prison. That could be interesting, but the Papadopoulos stuff could be far more interesting with his already having cut a deal and potentially having been wired for as long as 7-8mos as part of his proactive cooperation.
Trump has as much to fear with possibly-questionable past business dealings as the “Russia stuff.” Real estate can be a dirty business and he’s been doing it for a long time.
Honestly, I am surprised these attacks don't happen more often. During 2015-2016 in Israel it seemed that Palestinians were driving their cars into civilians almost daily. They were actually killing Arabs on accident at times because they just rammed into bus stops hoping to kill Jews whether they were a man, woman, child, or elderly.
The left will come in and say it isn't Islam, which it is, and the right will come in and say this is why we need bans from Islamic countries, which won't make a difference. These attacks are hard to stop or avoid unfortunately. Glad NYPD shot him.
It really isn't about Islam though, no more so than the IRA was about Christianity. Lots of people (left and right) want to blame religion, but religion is the excuse not the reason for the attacks. If religion didn't exist, terrorism still would. Terrorism is the action of last resort among people who feel desperate and powerless in the face of a foe that can't beat on the battle field. These "lone wolf" attacks are almost certainly done by emotionally unstable and/or sensitive people who profoundly relate to the suffering of their fellow Muslims. All of the images that our nightly news won't show on TV, are the images that theses people feast on via the internet and they feel powerless to help...and then find a way through terrorism. And the fact that their point of connection to the suffering is sympathy for fellow Muslims, doesn't make it about religion...if it wasn't these people for that reason, it would be other people for another reason.
The Islamic Faith has been around longer than America, but Islamic terrorism has only been a problem for America in the last 15 years or so. If it was "about Islam" you'd have known about it long before 9/11.
I said aloud, "God help us," as I was reading this, because we are guilty of a great many things, yet innocent of a great many things.
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[Lawrence and Ali watch as British cannons fire in the distance]
Sherif Ali: God help the men that lie under that.
T.E. Lawrence: They are Turks.
Sherif Ali: God help them.