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Roseanne was not solely fired for this tweet, she had been making ABC quite uncomfortable for some time and this is what pushed them over the edge. She can’t successfully claim that it was a joke, or the Ambien talking, or whatever the next excuse is because of the context of who she is publically aside from this tweet. ABC probably should not have risked this project in the first place.and 4 others.
Our Cartoon President is satire, and it’s on Showtime.
Colbert’s late night show is satire. The man made his name with a nonstop satire of Bill O’Reilly
Southpark is satire with heart, all of the racism and xenophobia on that show demonstrates how ridiculous it is rather than glorifying it, and it’s on Comedy Central
Bill Maher is a bit nuts on some issues, but you know what you’re getting with him, and he’s on HBO, and he was fired by ABC
I don’t watch the View, but I presume they don’t put up with racist declarations on a regular basis
Michael Richards career was pretty much killed for stepping over the line on race
Kathy Griffin’s career went through a near-death experience for stepping over the line on Trump
To be clear: indulging in public racism is an entirely different thing that being insulting to DJT. It is not equivalent. Period. If the right chooses to take an attack on racism as an attack on the right, then they are just confirming many folks worst fears about what the right is becoming in this country.
If you’re not a racist, but many of the people you affiliate yourself with are racists and you find yourself defending racism because attacks on it are hurting your “side,” then you have some introspective thinking to do.
The dog whistles of Birtherism, attacks on Anthem Protests, All Lives Matter, etc. have been successful for the right, but if you go from dog whistle to bullhorn folks still draw a line.
Also, I’m constantly irritated by the use of the term panic. This is not panic. This is just some fear. If we use panic to describe what is happening then what do we call actual systemic/societal breakdown with violence, looting, arson, etc. Buying a few cases of toilet paper and 50lb bags of rice might be overreaction, but it’s not panic. When folks in large numbers refuse to wait in line, pay for that stuff, or take “we’re out of that” for an answer; that’s what panic is.
The selective use of the jealous vengeful God of the Old Testament when convenient over the God of peace and forgiveness in the New Testament by some Christians is galling to me.
Some folks go all Leviticus over homosexuality, but they don’t want to discuss most of the other stuff in that particular book.
Wow, I leave for a few hours...
@JamieT I hope you’re okay, or even if you’re positive that this is the worst of your symptoms.
I’ve read about all kinds of non-standard symptom sets being positive for the virus with the only consistent thing being a fever.
Young people are going to die and old people are going to live, the bell curve peaks with old people that also have preexisting conditions, but there are tails to the curve that will include a healthy teenager dying from it and a 90 year old with emphysema living through it. Nobody is safe, and yet nobody has a death sentence either.
if you are more than 15yrs from retirement, don’t sell out of your stock positions (assuming they’re indexes or mutual funds) locking in the losses. If you have discovered that you can’t take recessionary downturns in the market, then change your future allocations. Don’t lock in losses unless you’re relatively close to retirement and need to have cash or conservative stuff to fund withdrawals in the relatively near future. Pull up a graph of the DOW or S&P 500 from 2009 to 2014 to see what you could miss out on in the market if you sell-out because of fear now rather than ride it out.
The mental health struggle is real. I am hearing from all kinds of people working from home by necessity that it’s really a cause of stress and anxiety, not even mentioning the news and potential media obsession. I’d recommend Governor Cuomo’s press briefings over the White House’s if you want to see sane leadership in a crisis.
We will get through this, but it’s going to be an off-and-on battle for the next 18mos or so. We’re going to have a recession, but we will recover. Look for the helpers, they’re all over the place from first responders and medical professionals, to grocery store checkers and truck drivers keeping the food supply working. There is a lot in this crisis that shows the best of humanity when you choose to see it.
I have whiplash from seeing some of the same people who protested government overreach and fascism with lockdown recommendations or mandates due to the Coronavirus, now demanding an invasion by the active duty military to control the cities because they’re scared.
They were quoting Franklin in support of protesting lockdowns: “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Where is that Benjamin Franklin spirit now folks? It’s only been a month, did y’all forget?
nstinson said:JoshTheBlack said:Does nobody see the irony here? Maybe @Redrum0376 is never coming back to read this thread. Maybe they just hurled a bomb in here out of anger with no intention to discuss their grievance. Maybe the post was made in bad faith. They aren't the first one to do this, and they won't be the last. Am I the only one who can take their post in good faith and engage with that criticism? I get that you're all uncomfortable with the conversation, but the behavior in this thread is a perfect illustration of exactly what I said above. It's a dog pile.
You are definitely not required to debate @Redrum0376's position here just because you disagree with it, but that doesn't mean you should all dismiss it with ass-eating syrup memes.
I'll Stan for BM all day long. I love the content, and I love the added value I get with that. Today, I am very disappointed in the community. (@Hatorian excluded, you responded in good faith.)
This thread starts off with a gripe. One that on it's face seems inflammatory and divisive. The first 2 responses are FORUM MODERATORS immediately starting in with jokes. Maybe your intent was to diffuse the situation, but this thread has completely devolved in to bullying. Engage with the topic or let the thread die, I don't care. Just don't hijack it and turn somebodies hurt into a joke.
I agree with all of this post and with Ben. If you're not one of the forum regulars, you seem sort of cast off and get flamed pretty easily for airing dissenting opinions (especially if it's clumsily done). *shrug* I don't pay for BM for the community, since I (like Ben) feel like an outsider. I do want to see them succeed though
I know that’s putting the burden on the newcomers and that’s not great, but it’s hard to change that kind of dynamic with group of folks who are familiar with one another.
Maybe we should start a “Welcome to the Forums” thread for newer people to have a space to introduce themselves and interact with folks while at the same time the regulars would know it isn’t the place for inside humor, criticism of phrasing, or dissenting views?
I don’t know what the solution is, but it’s not an unjustified criticism.
The anti-vax movement is already gearing-up to oppose the future vaccine and efforts at contact tracing.
The lack of strong, consistent, national leadership in the US will result in a painful resurgence of the virus over the next few months and that same lack of leadership will make a repeat lockdown largely ineffective.
If we do climb up to that potential 3,000 deaths per day in June, a run rate of 90,000 per month, we’ll end up with over 500,000 this year. Flirting with US Civil War level fatalities.
Look around at the countries who have managed this better. There are many. You don’t need to be draconian autocrats like China. Look at South Korea, New Zealand, Iceland, etc.
It’s increasingly embarrassing to be an American.
fidoz said:I no longer worry about covid since our president said if we just stop testing it will go away.
I can’t believe all of the lies I was told in Sex Ed.
Dee said:LordBy said:Organic farming is horrible for land use, water use, carbon emissions, and efficiency. If the world went organic it’d be murder for global warming
Here is a link to blog discussion of it that isn’t behind a pay wall: https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/more-evidence-organic-farming-is-bad/