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I was extremely underwhelmed. Maybe my expectations were set too high, but it didn't really deliver on anything. The battle scenes were fine but nothing really special, there weren't really any great character moments, none of the deaths were all that impactful, and yet another battle that's lost until the very end when someone/thing comes out of nowhere to save the day. And Melisandre is heroic all of sudden? At the very end I was thinking maybe they save the episode by having the Night King actually kill Bran and leave or something like that, but no.and 6 others.
I don't think it was a bad 82 minutes or anything, but it didn't come anywhere close to my expectations of some historic memorable episode like we got last week.
A lot of people seem to be misunderstanding why the genocide wasn't in Dany's character or set up at all. There's been zero setup to suggest that Dany would be capable of murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent surrendering people after she'd decisively won the battle. She decided to murder everyone and everything right when she achieved everything she'd been working towards.and 2 others.
It would have been so easy to make it all make sense and work too. All they had to do was have the battle not going in her favour and she decides she has to wake the dragon to win and then can't shut it off. That would make sense. The way they did it makes her just acting crazy because she's crazy. It would have even been better if the episode had just opened to dragon genocide immediately after the Missandei death.
Pretty hilarious quote from GRRM on the ending of Lost.
I watched Lost in its entire run and I was fascinated, but you know, even as early as the second season and certainly the third season, I started saying, how the hell are they going to pull all of this together? If they pull all of this together, it's going to be the greatest show in the history of television, man. They better know how to pull all of this together! And then when I reached the end and they hadn't pulled it altogether, in fact, they left a big turd on my doorstep? I was pretty upset, you know.
Lindelof's response about getting in an online feud with GRRM was perfect.
I’ve just been informed George is working on his feud response. I’ll have it in FIVE YEARS!
If you look at the current state of movies, tv, and video games, it's pretty clear that they're out of original ideas and just looking to remake everything. Why wait? Just start the Song of Ice and Fire remake next year and maybe George will be done book six by the time they get to season six this time.
Matt already said he'd tell the people back home whatever she wanted him to tell them. If she wanted him to tell them that she was gone so she could be left alone to work out her shit, he probably would have done that. It also makes sense why Kevin never fully believed Matt. He's trained to pick up on lies.What a phenomenal finale. I was almost a blubbering idiot just watching the previously on. I'm really happy they focused they entire episode on just Kevin and Nora. I'm glad we got to see Laurie because I maintained my point of view that her suicide didn't make sense.I'm pretty confident that Nora made up the story. The story was far too perfect and not really all that plausible. Plus she clearly panics and screams something that starts with "s" before the fluid covered her.My interpretation was that it just took her a really really long time to work through all her issues. Not sure if she came to the realization that if her family was alive that they were the lucky ones wherever they were before or after she stopped the procedure, but she probably would have went over the scenario she laid out for Kevin over and over in her head for years.
I think she told the truth. Matt returned saying she died.What a phenomenal finale. I was almost a blubbering idiot just watching the previously on. I'm really happy they focused they entire episode on just Kevin and Nora. I'm glad we got to see Laurie because I maintained my point of view that her suicide didn't make sense.I'm pretty confident that Nora made up the story. The story was far too perfect and not really all that plausible. Plus she clearly panics and screams something that starts with "s" before the fluid covered her.My interpretation was that it just took her a really really long time to work through all her issues. Not sure if she came to the realization that if her family was alive that they were the lucky ones wherever they were before or after she stopped the procedure, but she probably would have went over the scenario she laid out for Kevin over and over in her head for years.
I also think she felt guilty of the way she treated Kevin and everybody about losing her whole family that she wouldn't dare seek them out after she returned. She just wanted to isolate herself from everyone.
I think the Kevin/Jesus got resolved last episode when that part of it got obliviated by Bombs. So, he can't go back. And that was confirmed with him telling us about the pace maker he had put in.Her story was also too perfect and there were far too many holes. Society would collapse if 98% of the world's population vanished. Everybody wouldn't just stay in their homes they were living in. They'd have to band together in order to survive. But in Nora's story, everything is normal except for the empty houses and a lack of pilots.
LordBy said:These are big companies trying to do what’s best for themselves. I trust Marvel to make better movies consistently based on past performance so this is a risk for Sony, but if they can build this property out with good writing/directing/casting/production then good for them.
Marvel will figure out how to use their other characters to make entertaining movies so it’s not like it’s the end of the MCU or anything. MCU has brought in >$22billion in worldwide box office since 2008 so Marvel certainly brings something of value to the table. Association with the MCU also pays dividends in DVD/digital and broadcast/streaming revenue as well especially with the new Disney+ platform coming. Big risk for Sony to go it alone, but potential big reward if they can treat the property right.
Ending the partnership with Disney might mean the next movie doesn't get to a billion, but it'll still have a shot. There's also pretty much zero chance it makes less than 700 million with the momentum Spider-Man has right now. So even if it's the worst-case scenario and it only makes 700 million, that's much, much better than doing a 50/50 partnership with Disney. Spider-Man is by far Sony's most profitable franchise and it would be silly to split it. It'd be like Disney agreeing to a 50/50 split with someone else for the next Star Wars trilogy.
JaimieT said:Hunkulese said:JaimieT said:I don't think Disney expects 50/50. You ask for more, negotiate down. Even getting 10/90 is a win.
It's mind-boggling that Far From Home had the story and story beats it did if there was no agreement in place for the future.
Disney is negotiating going into D23. I think they understand timing.
It sure seems like the creative people at Disney made the deal, and the money people just found out about it.