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I was extremely underwhelmed. Maybe my expectations were set too high, but it didn't really deliver on anything. The battle scenes were fine but nothing really special, there weren't really any great character moments, none of the deaths were all that impactful, and yet another battle that's lost until the very end when someone/thing comes out of nowhere to save the day. And Melisandre is heroic all of sudden? At the very end I was thinking maybe they save the episode by having the Night King actually kill Bran and leave or something like that, but no.and 6 others.
I don't think it was a bad 82 minutes or anything, but it didn't come anywhere close to my expectations of some historic memorable episode like we got last week.
A lot of people seem to be misunderstanding why the genocide wasn't in Dany's character or set up at all. There's been zero setup to suggest that Dany would be capable of murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent surrendering people after she'd decisively won the battle. She decided to murder everyone and everything right when she achieved everything she'd been working towards.and 2 others.
It would have been so easy to make it all make sense and work too. All they had to do was have the battle not going in her favour and she decides she has to wake the dragon to win and then can't shut it off. That would make sense. The way they did it makes her just acting crazy because she's crazy. It would have even been better if the episode had just opened to dragon genocide immediately after the Missandei death.
Pretty hilarious quote from GRRM on the ending of Lost.
I watched Lost in its entire run and I was fascinated, but you know, even as early as the second season and certainly the third season, I started saying, how the hell are they going to pull all of this together? If they pull all of this together, it's going to be the greatest show in the history of television, man. They better know how to pull all of this together! And then when I reached the end and they hadn't pulled it altogether, in fact, they left a big turd on my doorstep? I was pretty upset, you know.
Lindelof's response about getting in an online feud with GRRM was perfect.
I’ve just been informed George is working on his feud response. I’ll have it in FIVE YEARS!
If you look at the current state of movies, tv, and video games, it's pretty clear that they're out of original ideas and just looking to remake everything. Why wait? Just start the Song of Ice and Fire remake next year and maybe George will be done book six by the time they get to season six this time.
Matt already said he'd tell the people back home whatever she wanted him to tell them. If she wanted him to tell them that she was gone so she could be left alone to work out her shit, he probably would have done that. It also makes sense why Kevin never fully believed Matt. He's trained to pick up on lies.What a phenomenal finale. I was almost a blubbering idiot just watching the previously on. I'm really happy they focused they entire episode on just Kevin and Nora. I'm glad we got to see Laurie because I maintained my point of view that her suicide didn't make sense.I'm pretty confident that Nora made up the story. The story was far too perfect and not really all that plausible. Plus she clearly panics and screams something that starts with "s" before the fluid covered her.My interpretation was that it just took her a really really long time to work through all her issues. Not sure if she came to the realization that if her family was alive that they were the lucky ones wherever they were before or after she stopped the procedure, but she probably would have went over the scenario she laid out for Kevin over and over in her head for years.
I think she told the truth. Matt returned saying she died.What a phenomenal finale. I was almost a blubbering idiot just watching the previously on. I'm really happy they focused they entire episode on just Kevin and Nora. I'm glad we got to see Laurie because I maintained my point of view that her suicide didn't make sense.I'm pretty confident that Nora made up the story. The story was far too perfect and not really all that plausible. Plus she clearly panics and screams something that starts with "s" before the fluid covered her.My interpretation was that it just took her a really really long time to work through all her issues. Not sure if she came to the realization that if her family was alive that they were the lucky ones wherever they were before or after she stopped the procedure, but she probably would have went over the scenario she laid out for Kevin over and over in her head for years.
I also think she felt guilty of the way she treated Kevin and everybody about losing her whole family that she wouldn't dare seek them out after she returned. She just wanted to isolate herself from everyone.
I think the Kevin/Jesus got resolved last episode when that part of it got obliviated by Bombs. So, he can't go back. And that was confirmed with him telling us about the pace maker he had put in.Her story was also too perfect and there were far too many holes. Society would collapse if 98% of the world's population vanished. Everybody wouldn't just stay in their homes they were living in. They'd have to band together in order to survive. But in Nora's story, everything is normal except for the empty houses and a lack of pilots.
dochielomn said:As for the town, I didn't think race really had anything to do with it. I don't remember there being a "race" sort of plotline in season 1 (maybe I'm wrong). I can see how it would be a big ordeal in Monterey but once facts started to come out about Perry being a rapist and physically abusive husband, I think it does more damage to Nicole Kidman and her family (mainly her sons) than it really does to Bonnie (assuming she is acquitted of any charge).
I'm also not sure Bonnie could even claim self-defence since she was never in danger. Is friend defence a thing?
CapeGabe said:I usually read a few reviewers that seem to have the same taste as me. I don't understand how these aggregate scores are helpful in something mostly subjective.
Of course, it doesn't hold a candle to finding reviewers who have similar tastes to you and consuming their content, but that takes time and effort and also doesn't give you the consensus opinion.
Can someone remind me why the main characters didn't just tell the truth in the first place? From what I remember at the end of season 1, Perry was pretty much beating the crap out of all of them (but mainly Nicole Kidman's character and possibly even strangling her) and then Bonnie basically comes to the rescue by shoving him which causes him to lose his balance and fall which leads to his death. So, if they told the truth, wouldn't this just be considered like a self-defense type thing? Or does Bonnie get arrested and tried for manslaughter and that's why they're covering it up?
It also wasn't a shove that caused him to lose his balance. She came running at a full sprint and purposely pushed him down the stairs.
I'm glad they're doing a second season because the ending to season one was too perfect. There's no way that group would be able to have gone through what they went through without major life-altering consequences. The murder mystery was always the least interesting part of the first season anyway. Episode 1 of season 2 gave me everything I loved about the show from season 1.