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  • U.S. Politics Vol. 7: A Dream of 2020

    Hatorian said:
    Travis said:
    One argument you forgot:

    Fire will rain down from the sky, Poseiden will release winged sharks, and Stalin will possess the White House and by speaking through the walls will influence all of its inhabitants thus creating the destruction of America! (this ad was brought to you by Koch Industries).

    I mean, there is a reasonable argument and that is the barely getting by mom and pop shop who will really feel a pinch and perhaps not a ton of the economic benefit because perhaps being pushed around by larger corporations and what they can offer doesn't allow them to necessarily get over that particular hump of the economic benefits. My mind is wandering to a small retail store that perhaps hires high school kids and is barely staying afloat anyway and those extra few bucks an hour and increased payroll taxes might be that last straw. It will have an impact on some people who may not be able to take advantage of the rising tide of putting more money in more pockets. That really does suck. This, in a way, could further corproratize our economy and ultimately and very ironically, make the strong even stronger. I always come back to our local video store that clearly didn't make much money and how Blockbuster literally moved in on the other side of the strip mall and pushed them out. An increased minimum wage probably would have ended that fight much quicker.

    That said, this is a bigger issue than that. People need to be able to get by and the deck gets stacked more and more towards the wealthy and labor gets less and less power in the equation so rapidly. Our economy is so top heavy. Mom and pops who are going to buckle under this are getting forced out by giant corporations anyway. Ultimately, I just wish that people like Amazon or Walmart or Starbucks, etc. would see the fact that more money in the hands of the larger percentage of society just feeds them more, like you guys were saying. There may be a sting on the front end, but it's just a more powerful consumer base in the end. Plus, if you follow the trends and see more and more households being left behind by relying on crappy wages (that if I'm correct aren't keeping up with inflation) and being forced out by automation and outsourcing society falls into chaos. This is the shit that breeds revolution, as history has shown. Take the "goodwill" out of it. It makes the economy stronger, and keeps our society stable. All the people making these decisions are thinking quarter to quarter. Try thinking about a decade or two.
    This is definitely another one of the biggest arguments. “Small businesses will be destroyed by MW”. I don’t agree. There’s policies we can put in place to protect them. I think we can institute regulation and law that ensures and supports these businesses. It all comes down to tax reform. 

    The idea that SMB business will die with MW is only based on the belief that they benefit from cheap labor. How is that fair or reasonable? So People believe that SMBs have the right to treat their employees like shit just so they can stay in business? Honestly I’d rather buy from Amazon than buy from a local business that pays slave wages..

    And once again it’s right wing supporters saying government support for a living wage is socialist. Yet they want to kill immigration. So they don’t want Americans to have a living wage and they don’t want to allow immigrants into the country to take these Low paying jobs. So what are SMBs supposed to? I’m keen to hear the argument for supporters of no minimum wage and against immigration. 
    I didn't say it was a winning argument. I only said that it is a reality and a shame. One thing that I do think is tough is that there is a difference between "high school kid" labor and "adult supporting a family" labor. I imagine there is typically a much higher quality to having a mature, grown ass adult to a kid out for their first job. I think that is a labor pool that a lot of small businesses rely on (particularly in retail and restaurants, but all over really). I don't think paying high school kids $11 or $12 an hour is "slave wages." I don't know well an over 18, under 18 dividing line, and that isn't to say that there aren't kids who are trying to support themselves and need grown up wages. Currently, we pay $14 an hour to a college kid at a part time, entry level position in our company, and our previous employees in that role we trialed at $12 for a couple of months (but our current new employee has a bit of experience). Is my boss a "slave master?" I'm agreeing with you ultimately, but that's some pretty strong rhetoric.

    I also didn't say that small business will "die." I never said that. I said that there is a reality that some people will be left behind, and that's a shame. There are plenty of small businesses who are doing great and will continue to do so. Will competition be driven out and the economy be further corporatized? Yes. Of course it will. Does that ultimately matter when weighing the two issues? No. 

    (EDIT NOTE: I now see that I personalized this when it was just a retort to the arguments. My bad. I've been having a crappy/really stressful day so I'm a bit out of sorts. Sorry about that.)
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  • What music are you streaming?

    Thanks, man! I love the New Tree Ants. I'm a sucker for things that play around with word. That's great! (I also love the O-need-ers! Ha!)

    I love the band name game. I swear, when I was in my late teens/early 20s we used to form bands just for the sake of naming them. I think my favorite was Celestial Phallus which was an inside joke dig at our friend who used to get SUPER annoyed when we would refer to Orion's sheath as his giant celestial penis. I think we jammed like twice and moved on. Skinny Legs and All (which I think is a Bukowski reference) was another fun one that my friends had for an afternoon sit down with a room centered tape recorder session. That one kind of grabbed at my brain in a cool way. Those were good times.

    I actually recorded like 2 songs on my own and started mapping out a set with visions of forming Chazz Anger Featuring Righteous Dropkicks at one point.


    cdriveChinaski
  • U.S. Politics Vol. 7: A Dream of 2020

    One argument you forgot:

    Fire will rain down from the sky, Poseiden will release winged sharks, and Stalin will possess the White House and by speaking through the walls will influence all of its inhabitants thus creating the destruction of America! (this ad was brought to you by Koch Industries).

    I mean, there is a reasonable argument and that is the barely getting by mom and pop shop who will really feel a pinch and perhaps not a ton of the economic benefit because perhaps being pushed around by larger corporations and what they can offer doesn't allow them to necessarily get over that particular hump of the economic benefits. My mind is wandering to a small retail store that perhaps hires high school kids and is barely staying afloat anyway and those extra few bucks an hour and increased payroll taxes might be that last straw. It will have an impact on some people who may not be able to take advantage of the rising tide of putting more money in more pockets. That really does suck. This, in a way, could further corproratize our economy and ultimately and very ironically, make the strong even stronger. I always come back to our local video store that clearly didn't make much money and how Blockbuster literally moved in on the other side of the strip mall and pushed them out. An increased minimum wage probably would have ended that fight much quicker.

    That said, this is a bigger issue than that. People need to be able to get by and the deck gets stacked more and more towards the wealthy and labor gets less and less power in the equation so rapidly. Our economy is so top heavy. Mom and pops who are going to buckle under this are getting forced out by giant corporations anyway. Ultimately, I just wish that people like Amazon or Walmart or Starbucks, etc. would see the fact that more money in the hands of the larger percentage of society just feeds them more, like you guys were saying. There may be a sting on the front end, but it's just a more powerful consumer base in the end. Plus, if you follow the trends and see more and more households being left behind by relying on crappy wages (that if I'm correct aren't keeping up with inflation) and being forced out by automation and outsourcing society falls into chaos. This is the shit that breeds revolution, as history has shown. Take the "goodwill" out of it. It makes the economy stronger, and keeps our society stable. All the people making these decisions are thinking quarter to quarter. Try thinking about a decade or two.
    Hatorian
  • What music are you streaming?

    cdrive said:
    Chinaski said:
    Travis said:
    "If you were to start a band and got to name it what would you be called" game: GO!
    easy! 'The C drives'. basically a Weezer Teal Album cover band!
    If you redo the Weezer Teal album like The Rentals then I would like to audition please.  Wait maybe that band would be called Friends of C.
    Hell yeah cover band cover band!!!
    I also very much enjoy Friends of C, very clever. Ha! Also, I like both of those names man. Particularly "Ambient Ambulette." Intriguing and it rolls out nice. Good base to build some cool album covers on. Very cool.

    They're both really dumb, but depending on the overall sound I've had Ergo, Dinosaur stuck in my head for a long time. I also like Broseph McCarthy and the Red Wave for something maybe along the lines of a Bossanova era Pixies sound.

    cdriveChinaski
  • What music are you streaming?

    russkelly said:
    Hey all you Rude Boys and Rude Girls. Apparently, The Specials are out on these streets with a new record...




    Whaaaa? That's super interesting. Thanks for the heads up. The song is pretty cool.
    That self titled record of theirs is just amazing. Produced by Elvis Costello, which still trips me out.
    russkelly