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  • Edge of democracy

    Just listened to the recent edge of democracy review, and felt that i should clarify a couple of things:
    - there's no evidence and no charge that Dilma dos anything to enrich herself.
    - Lula was convicted and arrested for supposedly accepting an apartment as bribes, but the major news out of Brazil right now is that the judge who sentenced him was in cahoots with the prosecution and protected opposition politicians. Unfortunately the story broke after this documentary was ready.
    https://theintercept.com/2019/06/17/brazil-sergio-moro-lula-operation-car-wash/

    As a small sample of the story. The intercept days that their files are larger than Snowden's

    The corruption, which was undeniable, was the bribing of opposition to vote for certain laws. So it was less personal enrichment and more of that.

    As an aside, it is important to note that a lot of that corruption is legal in the US. Lula's apartment thing, for example, is essentially the same as Scott Pruitt renting a lobbyist apartment in DC for 50 bucks a month.

    mvcpacheco
  • Woman's World Cup 2019

    cdrive said:
    The ‘92 Dream Team beat Angola 116 to 48 in their first game as “The Dream Team.” At the end they were still doing shit like bouncing alley oops to themselves off the glass, hot dogging and laughing about all the globetrotter shit they were trying while decimating this team. They were heralded.  Just throwing that take out there for some perspective. I think if the US Men’s Soccer Team wasn’t a heaping pile of dog shit and were instead this dominant, it wouldn’t surprise me if the narrative was a little different (reference point USA Men’s Basketball) 
    This isn't true. Just one example:


    There were a lot of stories about the "ugly Americans," and Barkley complained incessantly about the way the media talked about them.



    CretanBullOldGriswold
  • Your Favorite Movie Scene


    awookiee
  • Chernobyl Episode 4:The Happiness of All Mankind

    I don't think that the fear of humiliation is that specifically Soviet.

    Here's the best example: most people's knowledge of what happened to Challenger is completely wrong.


    The crew of the Challenger didn't die in the explosion. Turns out that the cabin was intact when the shuttle blew up, and the crew most likely died when it crashed into the Atlantic, after minutes of falling fully aware. There are records of the pilots turning on their oxygen systems, etc as the cabin tumbled towards the earth.

    Almost no one knows this. because, as the story above tells:
    "That was the pivotal issue: By the Herald’s account, NASA had failed to take any precautions in the event of a catastrophic but possibly survivable accident. It was of a piece with the hubris and magical thinking that had led NASA to put a civilian social-studies teacher aboard a dangerous spacecraft, for a nation of students to watch live in class. There was no equipment to arrest the craft’s fall or to allow the astronauts to ditch it, nor even an emergency locating transmitter. The crew could do nothing but ride it down"

    It is ultimately an issue that is inconsequential: either way, the crew died on live TV. But in one version (the one we all know), it was an unforeseeable accident. On the other, it was a failure to prepare for catastrophic failure. They couldn't hide what happened, but they could make the less embarrassing version the true one.


    Marci
  • Chernobyl Episode 4:The Happiness of All Mankind

    Guys, just think how much the Soviet socialist machine did not appreciate people. As far as the arms race was more important than human life.
    https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/12/atomic-tests-during-the-1950s-probably-killed-half-a-million-americans/

    Marcitom_ggguenot