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"Standalone" as in "a movie by itself".
@Hatorian - Rogue One is entirely based on "getting those plans" that we have known about since 1977. I like the movie, but anyone paying attention knew ALL of the characters were about to die, and that involved beating Angry Uncle Douchebag Mendlesohn--no Kylo Ren. I didn't love the bigger Death Star idea in Ep7 so much, but it still made for a better stand alone movie.I still don't get your point. So what that we knew what was going to happen. We know how many historical movies end but that doesn't stop us from loving them. It's all about how well they are made and how they make us feel even knowing what's coming. I think they did an amazing job showing 2 hours of world building and new stories I didn't know prior to the actual end where they got the plans. And ending it with Vader wrecking shop was probably the best way to alleviate the problem we knew how it ended. It was the best scene in Star Wars ever and totally made me not care that I knew how it was going to end.
@A_Ron_Hubbard - I am 99.9% certain that the cheap look of Vader was an intentional recreation of the original movie's look, if I am understanding what was bothering you...
EDIT: you call Ben Mendelssn "angry douchebag Uncle" and say he's no Kylo. But Isn't Kylo just "angry douchebag Son"? He's the epitome of the "millenial" Villian. Looking for acceptance from someone he respects, trying to be something greater than him, uncontrolled anger issues, parental issues, etc. He totally relates to like 90% of the Millennials and teenagers in the world.
Also please explain how TFA is a "standalone film? It's part of a trilogy and nothing about it is standalone. From scene one to closing scene it's almost a shot for shot remake of ANH. Also not sure what movie you were watching but TFA had the most predictable plot in all of SW. .
1. Bad guy chases good guys
2. Droid gets map/plans and escapes
3. Heroine on desert planet
4. She runs into Han Solo 2.0
5. They escape into space
6. They meet up with the RA 2.0
7 The empire 2.0 has a new Super weapon and test it
8 RA 2.0 to sit around a table of a hologram of this weapon and explain how to destroy it. Surpise it was exhaust ports!
9. They go on a suicide Mission
10. Guys on the ground turn some shit off to help the fighters in the air do their job
11. They blow it up
12. roll credits
Geez! I think Rogue One was TOO LONG and they made way too big a deal (sentimentally speaking) out of Jyn's back story. I didn't like Mendelsohn in this, just like I didn't like him in The Dark Knight Rises, but at least he was not allowed to act like a super douche the whole time in that movie. Kylo Ren the TEENAGER makes a little more sense acting like a petulant brat.
Am I not making any sense? Everyone is so quick to call this the best SW since Empire. I don't see it as quite that level, but maybe I'm just crazy.
Guys--your nostalgia is running away with this! It was a good movie, but I 100% agree with Jim; it's no Episode 7. One, the entire plot is super shaky--can we make a whole movie out of finding plans (that amount to "shoot this hole")? Two, the two main characters were so absolutely cookie-cutter. It's not really a good thing that the main female lead (I just watched the movie and I don't know her *fucking name*) sounds EXACTLY like Natalie Portman's "accent" while playing Amidala...
Overall, a good movie, and better than the prequels, but let's not blow our loads too fast here...