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Alkaid13 said:I mean look, if you assume being Anti-Trump means being Anti-Conservative then that’s really a sad state of affairs considering the man isn’t even all that representative of what I’ve always heard were core Conservative ideologies. Whatever you may have thought about Obama, and I have plenty of disagreements about the way Obama ran things, he wasn’t a literal racist. Also Climate Change is real based on pretty much all scientific evidence, if you come here to argue about easily proven facts you’re going to have a bad time and that’s just how it is. Like ARon said earlier, we’re not head to rehash arguments about the most banal stuff that the majority of the rest of the world accepts as simple fact, there are plenty of other places you can argue about that in. If you’re a person who thinks the racist, transphobic policies coming out of this admin are a fair trade off for judges or tax cuts or, worse that they’re actively good, then I don’t know what to tell you other than you need to seriously reevaluate your life choices because these things are actively hurting a pretty large swathe of people so that you can passively benefit from some small economic uptick at best. We have plenty of actual evidence to support the decisions that BM has arrived and and I’m personally always willing to hash it out privately with some people about why we’ve come to the conclusions that we’ve arrived at but we’re not going to debate this anymore because it just goes nowhere and that’s unproductive. I want this thread to debate the merits of various policies as political tools, or to devise solutions on how to solve the many ills we currently face as both a nation and a planet, I don’t want to talk about the latest dumb, racist thing Trump has done and argue for 3 pages about whether it was dumb and racist, it probably was. If these conclusions are unpalatable to anyone, that’s fine, we’re not asking you to change your beliefs overnight but the BM community at large is both wide and diverse and I know for a fact that several polices from this admin negatively impact the livelihood and wellbeing of several members for really no damn good reason and we’re not going to let this become a place where people ‘argue intellectually’ about policies that actively and negatively target memebers of the BM family. That’s just now how we roll here, if you don’t feel the same way then maybe don’t talk about politics, there are plenty of non political threads to chat in, if you want to continue to talk about politics then you have to accept the change in rules.
A_Ron_Hubbard said:I have updated the forum rules to add clarification and guidance to these political posts. Read them carefully, because they don't say whatever knee jerk thing you think they say. This is a family table, it has a certain vibe, and we're not having shouting matches at it. Treat being here the same way I treat going to my aunt's house for Thanksgiving; look for common ground from which to build bridges, tell your truths from a place of love and respect, and keep your mouth shut when you can't. I promise if I ever come to your house I'll bow my head if you ask me to pray. Just basic respect for your hosts is what I'm asking for here.
Not all Republicans or conservatives are this evil monster that the other side speaks of. Heck, I like to think not all democrats are crazy. It’s not fun reading on here and being painted as a racist or a sexist because you are a conservative and or republican. Hypocrisy and stereotyping ain’t too far from those accusations. I do hope as the moderator promised, posts will be checked for such ridiculousness. The midterms are over and, shocker, the house has flipped. This happens all the time. It’s encouraging to see a lot more citizens voting.
Alkaid13 said:Official Moderation Notice:
Hey there everyone, don’t make sweeping statements about non-elected citizens, that goes for R’s, D’s, and ABC-Z’s. It’s fine to call out politicians for pulling some shady shit because they’re elected officials running for office, if they don’t have a thick enough skin to weather that kind of stuff they shouldn’t be running. That’s punching up. Calling out people who vote for whoever as categorically bad is punching down, I don’t agree with some people’s choices but the act of voting in and of itself is neutral and should be encouraged. Don’t punch down.
Mod note done.