anubus21

I was wrong to lash out, but I am sure my political opinion was spot on To answer your points:

1 - I will admit the justice system isn't perfect. But our system of justice is built on the presentation of evidence to ascertain a person's guilt and a fair, impartial hearing to be judge by a jury of your peers. It's hard in today's climate to get such a hearing when people are roasted in the press before hand and people come in with preconceived notions as to a person's guilt or innocence. I may think that Harvey Weinstein is a jack ass and should be beaten repeatedly for his alleged crimes, but the guy is still entitled to a fair, impartial hearing before a judge and jury. That said, that man is royally screwed!

2- I also admit women have had a horrible go of it for centuries. So have African Americans, hispanics, jews, gays and lesbians and an assortment of other religions, ethnics groups and people of various sexual orientations. Everyone deserves justice no matter who you are and I am happy to live in a society that is trying to be more inclusive. And that judge who gave Brock Turner the light sentence was recalled by California voters so he is paying for he leniency. He made a choice and voters are holding him to task for it, as they should.

3 - I don't argue that the pendulum needed to swing back in the favor of women but it has swung so far that innocent men have and will be hurt by it. Some may say that is sad but it's what is needed for progress. I don't believe that destroying the lives of the innocent is every going to be a good justification for progress. 

4 - The police are granted their power to protect, arrest and kill from the people and the government. Some bad apples do get through, but on a whole the police do their jobs well and it's a thankless job at times. We give them the benefit of the doubt because we have imbued them with authority beyond that which we would give to ordinary citizens. To give the kind of benefit of the doubt we give to police to every citizen in the US would promote chaos in my opinion since we can not be assured that every citizen is altruistic. Yes, not all police all altruistic but I have police officers and military members in my family who see it as their duty to protect society and our country. They don't take that responsibility lightly and giving that sort of responsibility/authority to ordinary citizens (be they men or women) is dangerous.

Done with this for a while since this thread has just turned into the liberal, pat ourselves on the back society. 

Thomas said:

anubus21 said:

MrX said:

anubus21 said:

CretanBull said:

Frakkin T said:

when is it going to be enough?

He waited 12 days to make that call...he had 12 days to think about what he was going to say and that's what he came up with.

Could he have said it better? Yes. But I am going to wait to see the whole transcript of the conversation or hear it because most of this is coming second hand from a congressional rep who wants him impeached. He has already denied it and says he has proof so why not wait til that proof is released and then judge?

The man's wife hasn't come out and slammed him (at least from what I read in USA Today this morning) so it's a real possibility this congresswoman is lying

I guess the proof is in a bunker with the Comey tapes right? Yea that "proof" is never seeing the light of day ... because Trump is a serial liar.

The soldier's mom has responded:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/10/18/totally-fabricated-trump-disputes-congresswomans-depiction-of-his-exchange-with-soldiers-widow/

"Johnson's mother, Cowanda Jones-Johnson, told The Washington Post on Wednesday that she was in the car during the call from the White House and that "President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband.""

The congresswoman said she has proof and since I am assuming that isn't locked away in Trump's basement she should release it. Otherwise it's a big game of he said she said, even if you do have the mother sounding off.

So a congresswoman comes out and says what Trump said was offensive and you defend him....then the actual widow herself comes out and confirms what the congresswoman said and you just dig in and keep defending him?  Bold strategy Cotton, let's see how it pays off for you.

The link that was shared was from the soldier's mom, not the wife. Again, if there is actually evidence aside from a he said she said then I'm game to hear it. Reports are that several staffers, including the Chief of Staff was in the room and since he was in the military I have a feeling he would pretty pissed if the President did disrespect the dead soldier.

since you didn't read what I wrote, I said if there was evidence I would revisit it. It has nothing to do with defending him and everything to do with the media and a liberal congresswoman trying to paint the guy as hostile towards the military with heresay. I have a feeling he has more compassion for the military and cops more than Obama. 

I actuallu don't like Trump but I have told people that it would be nice if people would lay off all the bullshit stories that don't effect how the country is run. Same thing I said when Obama was president and conservatives I knew were always talking about the birther shit and him not being an American. Had nothing to do with how he ran the country.

I didn't like Obama either but I didn't want him to fail since that we would mean we fail as a country. I don't see many liberals taking that stance with Trump. They all shout how he is a racist, a bigot, a homophobe, a misogynist and they hope he is impeached and that he never a gets any legislation passed, and they don't want democrats to make any deal with him at all. How bout we actually try to work together and compromise (I know...shock!), then let the voters determine whether or not they want to keep him in 2020.

OK I mean... there's an actual white supremacist posting white supremacist stuff on this thread daily and I tell you and you say he's coming close to the edge or something... but the emnbot joke is too much for you lol

@emnofseattle sorry if I hurt your feelings brodude

Who exactly is the white supremacist posting on here everyday? I see a couple of folks who are conservative, like myself, but haven't seen anyone specifically spouting off about their love for white supremacy and hatred for minorities.

I support responsible gun ownership, but I also don't see a problem with a 10 day waiting period and background checks. Especially if someone is buying an AR15 of M4.

I have a glock, my dad owns plenty of guns as do many of the people on both sides of my families. I was always taught as a kid growing up to be respectful of how dangerous guns are and to not dick around with them if you don't know what you're doing.

From some of the reports about the shooter I am wondering if he suffered a psychotic break. Apparently his dad was a criminal who was described as psychotic, he had been purchasing guns a lot more frequently in the last few months and had been gambling thousands at the casinos recently as well. From his brothers comments it seems like this wasn't normal behavior so I wonder if there was something genetic he inherited from his father or whatever that could have caused him to lose touch with reality.