anubus21

So it's about that time...no, not time for a cold beer but time to say bye bye Bald Move. I have supported this website, the podcasts, and @Jim and @A_Ron_Hubbard for more than two years because I enjoyed the content and the community. I am still looking forward to my copy of A.Ron's book and will listen to the Game of Thrones podcast for Season 8, but that'll be it. What I won't do is continue to monetarily support a website/community that tells me I have to think a certain way or be banned.

For those of you who don't hang around in the more politically oriented threads, it has become policy that if you argue that President Trump isn't a racist then you will be banned from the forums.  In A.Ron's own words from a DM we exchanged,

"I'm not going to have people deny Trump's racism when it's so blatant, cruel, and obvious."

Well I have a problem with dangerous, blanket statements such as that, especially when they come with an ultimatum. I can admit the President can be racially tone deaf at times but calling him an out and out racist and threatening to kick off anyone who disagrees crosses a line with me (and I didn't vote for the guy). A.Ron told me in the same DM,

"You're welcome to stay and keep your mouth shut and listen to the women and people of color here about political and social issues that are life and death to them, or you're welcome to seek out whatever free speech utopia that will let you air your completely obvious and banal opinions to the world, because there are a lot of them out there and this isn't one of them."

Now it is their website and they are within their rights to kick people off. But for a community that is supposed to be open and inclusive, this new policy strikes me as knee jerk and smacks of someone pushing their own political agenda. I don't come onto Bald Move to listen to an echo chamber of negativity, but that's what it has become. I won't stay and keep my mouth shut as A.Ron told me I would have to do because I have beliefs and in this country I am free to express those beliefs, and I will express my beliefs that I should be able to openly speak about my viewpoint without fear of persecution or retribution (the mods on here have frequently threatened me with banning and I have been cursed at repeatedly for some of my viewpoints, which seems to be ok with A.Ron since I haven't seen him smack the hands of others for coming after me).

I would advise moderate and conservative leaning people to reexamine your monetary support of Bald Move in light of their new policy and attempts to control the narrative on the forums/website in ways that are hostile towards us (even if you don't support the President). The guys are great podcasters, but they have injected too much of their political agenda into Bald Move and I think it will be part of their undoing in the end. 

Best Wishes,
Anubus21

Alkaid13 said:

And don’t @ me with any “well liberals do it too” nonsense because I don’t fucking care. If you can present to me an honest liberal actor promoting the same level of violence and hatred as Alex Jones with the same size of audience then yes, I agree, they should also be banned. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t also ban Alex Jones in the meantime. That’s like not arresting someone just because some other guy who’s clearly guilty hasn’t been arrested yet. We should all have a baseline where people who are actively harmful to public goodwill don’t deserve a platform from which to spread that harm regardless of who’s side they’re supposedly on because they’re not on anyone’s side, they’re just assholes. 

My worry comes from who gets to say what the baseline is for determining if people are actively harmful to the public goodwill. You? me? The president? Pelosi? Zuckerburg? Bernie? Ben Shapiro? Rachel Maddow? Congress? A focus group of 1,000 people from Missouri? The faculty at NYU?

I can agree that Alex Jones is a dick, but what happens when less offensive speech starts to become too much for a society that is increasingly losing the ability to deal with opinions and views that differ from theirs? 

Murderbear said:

MattyWeaves said:

Don't listen to Mr. X, he just wants to jump in line. You have to drive to Cincinnati and find the Bald Move Headquarters, and hand deliver $300 worth of goods.

Choose wisely, because if the goods don't meet the demands of Jim and A. Ron, they may sacrifice you to the podcast gods.

Yeah, bourbon and Chipotle burritos. Reeeeeeeeaaallllll hard code to crack! 

I thought all it took was a couple of massages with a happy ending to get a commissioned podcast out of Jim and A.Ron! Now ya tell me....

tom_g said:

emnofseattle said:

Frakkin T said:

emnofseattle said:

Doctor_Nick said:

The irony is that if the Republicans had superdelegates, they may have been able to prevent Trump.

And thus would’ve lost the election.

tfw having a racist fascist piece of shit potus who attacks gold star families is better than having a lady president

Frakkin T said:

emnofseattle said:

Doctor_Nick said:

The irony is that if the Republicans had superdelegates, they may have been able to prevent Trump.

And thus would’ve lost the election.

tfw having a racist fascist piece of shit potus who attacks gold star families is better than having a lady president

Since Trump is not a racist or a fascist, Trump is a market conservative and thus cannot be a fascist by definition, and the only gold star family he attacked were people who had directly criticized him, and used their status as a gold star family to criticize him on issues unrelated to that status. Perhaps the wrong way about it, but you can’t level allegations on someone in public and be upset You get a response. 

Trump is a racist.

Can we get your definition of racist? Last time I checked he wasn’t spitting out racist verbiage at people, or passing jim crow laws or say he hates colored folks. Please site specific examples and not use emotional arguments. Seriously am curious...