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  • U.S. Politics episode 4: A New Thread

    tom_g said:
    Can someone translate the Trump tweet this morning regarding Kirsten Gillibrand for me?  Anxious to see the impression of the Pacific Northwest Libertarian types.
    Pretty much insinuating like a 5 year old that she's a turn coat and when she came to him for campaign contributions she was willing to undermine her integrity. However, since the individual tweeting is also the same person who thinks grabbing a woman between the legs is a proper pick up technique, I wouldn't be surprised if he was trying to say she'd even provide sexual favors for campaign contributions. Like I said, a 5 year old. 

    “They let you”


    let1
    let/
    verb
    1. 1
      not prevent or forbid; allow.
      "my boss let me leave early"
      synonyms:allow to, permit to, give permission to, give leave to, authorize to, sanction to, grant the right to, license to, empower to, enable to, entitle 

    Well if a woman “lets” you do something how is it improper? nothing in the definition of let implies impropriety. 

    He was criticisizing Gillibrand because she’s sought donations from him in the past, any implication of sexual favors is your inference, it’s not in the language of what was said 
    Let's see, if I walk  up to you and apropos of nothing, suddenly punch you in the face, and you don't kill me right afterwards, does that mean you "let" me do it? because I feel that's about as much consent that Trump theoretically received in these incidents.

    I'm also surprised to hear you defending this side of Trump. I had the idea  you were more personally conservative with behavior stuff, what with all your extra shirts and all. Maybe that's a leap.

    tom_g said:
    Can someone translate the Trump tweet this morning regarding Kirsten Gillibrand for me?  Anxious to see the impression of the Pacific Northwest Libertarian types.
    Pretty much insinuating like a 5 year old that she's a turn coat and when she came to him for campaign contributions she was willing to undermine her integrity. However, since the individual tweeting is also the same person who thinks grabbing a woman between the legs is a proper pick up technique, I wouldn't be surprised if he was trying to say she'd even provide sexual favors for campaign contributions. Like I said, a 5 year old. 

    “They let you”


    let1
    let/
    verb
    1. 1
      not prevent or forbid; allow.
      "my boss let me leave early"
      synonyms:allow to, permit to, give permission to, give leave to, authorize to, sanction to, grant the right to, license to, empower to, enable to, entitle 

    Well if a woman “lets” you do something how is it improper? nothing in the definition of let implies impropriety. 

    He was criticisizing Gillibrand because she’s sought donations from him in the past, any implication of sexual favors is your inference, it’s not in the language of what was said 
    Let's see, if I walk  up to you and apropos of nothing, suddenly punch you in the face, and you don't kill me right afterwards, does that mean you "let" me do it? because I feel that's about as much consent that Trump theoretically received in these incidents.

    I'm also surprised to hear you defending this side of Trump. I had the idea  you were more personally conservative with behavior stuff, what with all your extra shirts and all. Maybe that's a leap.
    I don’t believe the video is in and of itself a confession to sexual assault as many make it out to be. 

    “I just kiss them, I don’t even wait”
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  • U.S. Politics episode 4: A New Thread

    The second study that I've seen regarding Trump's lying.  The first one showed that Trump lies about 3.5 times more often than any other President or candidate in modern history (from Kennedy forward).  This one shows that he lies more than 6 times as often than the person.  That shouldn't surprise anyone, but was is - or should be - shocking is that he's off the charts when it comes to telling malicious lies.  The average person tell cruel lies (ones aimed at putting someone down, hurting them etc) 0.8% of the time...Trump's rate of cruel lies is 50%.

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/i-study-liars-ive-never-seen-one-like-president-trump-20171208-h01q54.html

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  • U.S. Politics episode 4: A New Thread

    I don't know the composition of the jury, and neither do you. Likewise, neither you or I were at the trial, or saw the evidence that was presented. It wasn't a political election, and there are no exit polls. The only way someone would try to paint the result of that trial as a liberal versus conservative thing was if someone was so deeply partisan that they were willing to do anything, even absent any factual basis, just to score cheap points.


    And good to see that you are at least consistent in that nothing matters but team red for you and winning elections, and righteousness of laws be damned.
    Again, you can deny it all you want, it was a jury of partisan leftists. Over 85% of the city are democrats and very hard left ones at that. That means for each juror there’s an 85 percent chance that an extreme leftist takes that role in the jury. If you make a statistical model the chances that a single moderate even, let alone a conservative, makes it on the jury is infintesmally small. 

    And trials are public, I can see every piece of evidence the jury saw. This is not a secret proceeding. Saying “well you didn’t see the evidence” first off you have no way of knowing what I saw and therefore you should assume I saw everything the jury did, because this was a criminal trial and according to the constitution those are public. That’s a fascile argument 

    what is morally wrong about setting a depreciation schedule for write offs on cars? I do not concern myself with other people’s tax rates, and the fact is, you’re trying to use this tax write offs for cars as evidence for why a bill that will lower taxes for virtually all low income Americans and the majority of the middle class is wrong, and it’s a silly argument. I’m not arguing in the weeds over a moral argument over the car depreciation schedule, and you know full well no one other then an ideological leftist even cares about that, so you’re complaining about a loss for team blue. Team blue could’ve been involved in drafting the bill, they chose not to until there was enough votes to advance it, then offered BS amendments as a delaying action. Sour grapes! 

    Oh well the Dems just got Obamacared! 
    Whether you (or anyone for that matter) likes or dislikes the Bill, don't pretend that criticism of it is partisan.  Non-partisan scoring of the Bill estimates that it will add between $1 and $1.6 trillion dollars to the deficit....that goes against everything that Republicans pretend to care about.  Supporting this Bill is partisan. 

    The Bill was rammed through, without anyone having read it, without any hearings etc.  Again, these are things that Republicans usually care about - due process and all that.  When you go against what you claim to believe because it's your side doing it, it's not criticism that is partisan - it's support that is partisan.

    I'd love to see the source for your claim that it "lower taxes for virtually all low income Americans and the majority of the middle class" because that goes against everything that has been written about it...and against what the Republicans (Mitch McConnell) have admitted themselves - they're not even pretending that it does what you're claiming it does.  The CBO scoring is really clear - people making under $30k will be hurt by 2019, people making under $40 will be hurt by 2021 and most people making under $75k will be hurt by 2027.







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  • Australia Vs Canada, Which is the best place to live?

    I live in Toronto and like all places it isn't perfect, but I love it here.  I've traveled all over Canada and America and there's no place I'd rather live (maybe NYC - if I had more money!).  Incidentally, my family is originally from Leeds (Horsforth).

    If I had an idea of what you liked, what you didn't like, what you're interested in etc I could offer my thoughts a little better.

    Very basic run down....

    Housing -  is insanely expensive.  A house in the city is around $1 million, and that's not for a mansion - that's for a post-war home built in the 1940's or 50's, could need some fixing up and it might only be semi-detached.  Houses out in the suburbs are cheaper, but still expensive.  My parents live in a townhouse about 1/2 hour drive East of Toronto and their place was recently evaluated at $425k.

    Weather - Winters can be cold, but you will get used to it.  Driving in the snow and on ice can take a long time to adjust to.

    Politics - current Provincial government is Liberal, but they 100% will lose the next election and the Conservatives will almost certainly win.  The city of Toronto is very liberal, the suburbs tend to be more conservative (but still socially liberal...same sex marriage, a woman's right to choose etc are all considered settled matters, even among Conservatives).

    Culture - can't be beat, truly world class.  Toronto is the most diverse city in the world (that's not hyperbole, it's statistical fact).  There are around 6 million people in the Toronto area and 50% of them weren't born in Canada.  It's an immigrant city that is flooded with world culture.  No matter what your interests are, what type of food that you like, no matter what you're curious about, I guarantee that you'll find it in Toronto.

    Sports - we have everything except for the NFL.  The Blue Jays are a decent baseball team, the Raptors are a very good basketball team, the Maple Leafs are a very good hockey team (perhaps on the verge of being a great team), and Toronto FC is the best football team in the MLS...and despite what Europeans say/think, the MLS is a decent league (Championship level, with a handful of Premiership quality players).  I'm a member of a Toronto FC supporter's group and there's about 15 of us who are also Leeds United fans, you'd be welcomed to join us :)

    Crime - very, very low.  Violent crime is among the lowest in the world among major cities.  I work in a criminology related field, we measure violent crime on a 0 - 100 scale, anything under 11 is considered low crime...Toronto is rated at 1.8 (on the same scale, Leeds is rated 8.2).

    That's what I can think of off the top of my head, but if you had questions about anything in particular I'd be happy to answer.


    OH!  And there's also this - we aren't Australia :p  No deadly spiders, no deadly snakes, no kangeroos threatening to box you, no drop bears, no chlamydia bears  (just kidding, I love my Aussie Commonwealth brothers and sisters, but also love a good ribbing!)


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  • Jim and aron are their nicknames?

    Hatorian said:


    insightful tag for whoever can come up with the best anagram. 
    I'd like to put forward the lesbian adult performer Rubbar Hardon and her manager JJ Monies.
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