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Dee said:

What’s everyone’s thoughts so far? I loved it - it’s just so fast paced that I never lose interest. 

I don’t entirely love Aya Cash in it - she’s doing her usual schtick of Acerbic Millennial, just with superpowers and added racism. She’s basically a higher energy Aubrey Plaza and that’s not something I find appealing. 

I like Aya Cash but I agree she seems to be playing a similar character to Gretchen in You're The Worst. But having not read the comic books, the ending of Episode Three had my jaw on the floor. Really took me by surprise.

I'm liking it so far, as well as I liked the first season. Having just come off of Umbrella Academy's second season, though, I think I prefer UA. It doesn't take itself as seriously, has more humor and much MUCH better music! (Unless you're a huge Billy Joel fan, obviously.)

A couple of notes on the podcast A.Ron did with Kim Renfro:

The tunnels and the device used by Jonas and Claudia could only move you back or forward 33 years in time. However, the God Particle (big black blob) could take you anywhere you wanted to go, per Adam in Season 2. The mini time balls can also take you to any specific date, as well as to either world.

Also, Kim erred in saying we didn't know who Katherina's father was. He was the guy who called Egon in Season 1 and showed him all the dead sheep. He had the same last name (Albers). 

lengmo said:

It's in the comics.  Kind of a mixed bag which did the Whisperers better, the show or the comics, but arguing they don't fit is kind of like saying The Avengers Infinity War arc should not be in the MCU.

There are other things in the comics that didn't make it onto the TV show and vice versa. And that's not really the point. The point is that the entire concept of The Whisperers substantially contradicts the first eight seasons of the show and what it's told us about Walkers. The idea that these people can just put masks over their faces and "fool" Walkers into thinking they're one of them is nonsense if covering oneself, from head to toe, with fresh Walker blood and guts only did the trick for a few minutes. 

And while I can believe some loony sees the Walkers as "the new way" and strives to "live" as they do, I have no idea what would motivate anyone to follow him or her. Especially when they are prone to cut your head off if you so much as look at them sideways. It's not as if they are offering protection or comfort. They're shuffling around all day in Walker herds, and sitting around in the woods eating grubs and worms.

As for why anyone at Hilltop or Alexandria should fear these cartoon character, I'm drawing a blank. The Whisperers don't have magical powers. They aren't doing anything the folks at Hilltop and Alexandria couldn't do themselves if they put on their own Walker face masks and just led the herds in the other direction. Problem solved!

Yes, the entire Saviors saga was poorly written and annoying as hell but I at least understood the Saviors. I simply do not understand The Whisperers. At all. It's all nonsense. It's the kind of thing that might work OK in the comics because it's suitably creepy as a concept, but it just doesn't work in the TV formula given what we've already been told.

I'll be interested to hear what A.Ron and Jim think about all of this, at any rate.

I for one really enjoyed the series, although I'm not sure they stuck the landing. I'm so tired of shows trying to be overly clever by jumping around in the timeline and deliberately trying to confuse you. This was easy to watch and follow and kept me interested all the way through. 

I'm not sure about the show itself but I think Cecily and Alexis did a great job with the Podcast. In fact that's probably the main reason I'll keep watching the show. I have always enjoyed Cecily and A.Ron on the AHS Pod and Alexis has completely won me over.

I remember seeing The Golden Compass movie years ago and just found it weird and baffling. I found the first episode of this series less so but still strange. This is a weird fantasy universe I can't quite get a handle on but maybe I'll get more into it as the story progresses. The books seems to have an awful lot of fans so I'm interested to see what all the fuss is about.