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I probably should have clarified I was actually a TFA and TLJ defender until after watching them for like the 5th time. I Have actually been converted to the haters side. The new movies just get worse and worse and their warts bigger and bigger.
the milenium falcon just happens to be on Jakku? Han just happens to meet up with Rey? This is a galaxy. The chances of these things happening are 0.0000000000000000000001%. It’s ridiculous. I could get over these “coincidents” if the story was good but it just falls flat.
And every time I watch Han die and this stupid map to Luke I just shake my head in disbelief that someone who was such a big fan of 80s sci-fi was so incompetent/delusional/unaware/uncaring to think “hey, maybe the Star Wars fans would love to see the entire original cast together in a scene” and then find a damn way to make it work. Honestly after seeing what JJ did with Star Trek I honestly think he just sabotaged 7 and now I have no faith in 9.
I finally sat down and watched in order the Star Wars series based on the guys coverage.
if you don’t care about Star Wars or don’t want to hear someone bitch then these are not the droids you’re looking for..
Disney buying Star Wars is not the problem. They have done a magnificent job on the MCU. And with proper care could have done the same with Star Wars.
I actually don’t have many problems with the series until the new trilogy.
theres a ton wrong witg the prequels. But George Lucas warned us before hand. He said he was making these movies for his kids. Not for the fans.
Blame him all you want but the phantom menace was a kids movie because George wanted it to be.
Attack of the clones is just bad. They try to tell a love story and they fail. But it doesn’t ruin any character. And it progresses the story as it should. Just not in the best way possible.
Revenge of the sith is actually pretty good.
4-6: no major complaints. Expect I fully believe that if endor was Wookiee instead of Ewoks RTOJ would be considered the best Star Wars movie of all time. Or at least the third act would be considered the best stars Wars on film.
Before 7. Disney purchases Star Wars. Here is where we really get to the major problem. While Kevin Feig who runs the MCU runs a tight ship and builds a cohesive narrative the Stars Universe gets Kantleen Kennedy who does not. They decide that the sequel trilogy should not have a prepared theme/story. They decide to let each movie stand on its own and give the directors their own creative control. They do not put a single power in charge of mapping out a coherent story and then letting the directors add their flavour. So we get the sequels trilogy. An unorganised mess
7. Now here is where we start to get to the problems regarding the sequel trilogy. Doesn’t matter if Abrhams or Disney is at fault. But rehashing a new hope was a horrible idea and made no sense. Making the new order as powerful as the empire went against everything we saw at the end of 6. And no you cannot fill the gaps with books. It needs to be on screen. It’s just a lazy rehash. Now on top of this lazy rehash. Abrams decides to Paint our favourite hero Luke in a corner by making a storyline that he has run away, but conviently leaves a map to be found...yea ok.... So before you start hating on Rian Johnson, realise Abrams wrote Luke into a corner and fucked Johnson on how to make it work..
8. Now we are supposed to believe after the resistance destroys starkiller base they are on the run and losing the war? Huh? So the first order is soooo strong they can lose their giant weapon and still be winning the war. WTF? So then we finally get to Luke. Which I will defend Rian Johnson was put into a Writers corner by Abrams. He had to make Luke out to be this guy who made mistakes and was despondent. Yet why the map? Oh we never get that answer. Don’t worry though. It’s all Rians fault. So then we get this whole storyline of Luke has given in which completely contradicts his previous arc.
and I’m not even mad about that. People change and people get pessimistic. But then the final act is Luke going to Leia and saying he can’t save Ben? And doesn’t even try? That’s just 100% against the characters core values and beliefs. Now the first order is basically the empire and the resistance is the alliance. Episode 9 sounds exciting!
ultimately It comes down to 3 things.
1. Disney fucked up by not putting a person/team in charge of mapping out the story arc and letting directors fill the creative differences
2. JJ and the Writers of 7 totally fucked the entire sequel trilogy by rehashing a new hope and writing Luke into a corner
3. Rian while, put into a shitty position with Luke got a big fucking head and decided to flip the entire story and characters for whatever reason and ruined the legacy
We had one....one fucking chance....to see Luke, Leia, Han, and the other original characters on screen for one moment and they fucked it up. It’s the biggest middle finger to Star Wars fans. It can’t be undone.
I don’t envy JJ. I wish I could write the story for 9 but obviously I can’t. But it’s going to be a tall order to raise this shitty destroyed X-wing from the waters.
JoshuaHeter said:Hatorian said:JoshuaHeter said:While we're on the topic...
Michael Jackson... he did all of that, right?
she said, it would be like someone making a documentary about how Mr Rogers was a pedo. How would that make me feel?
I understood her point, but i was like facts are facts. Childhood heroes should only be heroes if they actually are. if it turns out they are shitty people then unfortunately you have to accept that and move on.
When the steroid scandal was at a fever pitch, if he had categorically denied everything, (rational or not) I probably would have believed him. But, I would've believed him for emotional, as opposed to evidential reasons. I really wanted to believe that he was clean. That said, when all he could muster when accused was "I'm not here to talk about the past." That was enough for me to see the light.
Face to face with an MJ defender, this is a completely annoying (perhaps fallacious) point, but it seems clear that many of those who come to his defense are blinded to the evidence by their emotional connection to him / his work.
ALSO: the doc is VERY tough to watch in some places (the victims / accusers go into detail), but I did find it gripping.
In addition, (I could go into detail here but) just in general, I found their testimony to be especially believable / plausible. I understand the issues with the reliability of testimony, but I walked away thinking that either these guys are just absolutely telling the truth, or they are both phenomenal actors and they have thought out their stories in detail to an absolutely ridiculous degree.
It’s really disappointing that the show has finally found some footing.
It all started with the season 6 cliffhanger.
if they just had the season 6 finale show the deaths and season 7 be all out war then move to this plot line in season 8 I think the guys still cover the show.
lots of missteps and fucks up. Feels like whoever is running TWD is also in charge of the Star Wars universe. I know writing, directing, acting is all hard. But coming up with a compelling coherent story isn’t that hard..