Is Westworld on Earth?

markdun1

Just firing this one out there and I'm totally prepared to get shot down for it, but has anyone given any thought to the fact that Westworld might not even be on Earth? I'm thinking of some kind of dome on Mars or the moon. Considering Westworld is set at least 60-80 years in the future this isn't too unrealistic.

Cory

I'm kind of hoping for Mars for some reason.

It's been discussed a little in the "WestWorld Location" thread, if you want to check that out.

ghm3

Who cares?

That theory has been kicking around since the pilot but I don't understand the relevancy at all.

voodoorat

maaaaaaaaaybe

Blazino

ghm3 said:

Who cares?

That theory has been kicking around since the pilot but I don't understand the relevancy at all.

I feel the same. If its on Mars or something why not just say that right off the bat. I don't see the pay-off of using it as some kind of reveal mid-season.

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Koun7erfit

I can't really buy the Mars theory, if this is a vacation spot there's going to be months of travel time. Unless they have FTL which I will call bullshit on any scifi that does that because ya cant fuck physics.

bsmither

Gravity on Mars is roughly 1/3 Earth-norm. We would need to suspend our disbelief about that, and crediting artificial gravity is not going to sit well with me.

Same with dropping my theory of the park being on a captured asteroid at L5.

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m_boogie66

Great show - podcast & forums!

Quick, meaningless, neither-here-nor-there observation: there's a tech person at Westworld that has the task of programming the act of rape into an android..... Whoa...!

Cory

akritenbrink said:

Is there a reason based on evidence that people think Westworld is on another planet? Or is it just people's imagination going off?

Imagination mostly, I think.

redlancer

I think it's left open to the possibility, but dialog in the show has mentioned several times "evolution on this planet" and similar lines. That seems to infer Earth, but I don't think it's been explicitly stated.

I think it's more possible we're actually way farther in the future than is implied in the show vs being on a different world/moon/spacestation. 

SpaceMonkey

I think it's in Australia.  I mean it's mostly uninhabited now and I don't see why it would get populated in the future.  So that's millions of acres of land that i'm sure, with the right deal, the Australian government would be happy to lease out or sell.

MerleGrogan

Just listened to the Bald Move WestWorld podcast - really enjoyed it.  Here are some thoughts (apologies if already mentioned)

The 'THE TERMS OF DELOS DESTINATIONS' for visitors that can be found on the Westworld website states that every 28 days guests must be 'decompressed'.  That sounds very 'other worldly' to me?

On the other hand - presuming 'flies' are not also man made/robotic, I was unaware that flies could live on other planets in the way we know them - and if life can evolve there, why are they allowing flies to thrive, but no other insects or animals?

MerleGrogan

MerleGrogan said:

It also mentions 'the Mainland' (as in it says something along the lines of 'if you commit a human to human crime on Westworld then Delos will report the incident to authorities on the 'mainland'

MerleGrogan said:

Just listened to the Bald Move WestWorld podcast - really enjoyed it.  Here are some thoughts (apologies if already mentioned)

The 'THE TERMS OF DELOS DESTINATIONS' for visitors that can be found on the Westworld website states that every 28 days guests must be 'decompressed'.  That sounds very 'other worldly' to me?

On the other hand - presuming 'flies' are not also man made/robotic, I was unaware that flies could live on other planets in the way we know them - and if life can evolve there, why are they allowing flies to thrive, but no other insects or animals?

txyesboy

markdun1 said:

Just firing this one out there and I'm totally prepared to get shot down for it, but has anyone given any thought to the fact that Westworld might not even be on Earth? I'm thinking of some kind of dome on Mars or the moon. Considering Westworld is set at least 60-80 years in the future this isn't too unrealistic.

I'm going with "Earth 2" or "Florida"

Texas123

Does the red shirt say "moonmad" in episode 3 as reason for Orion host going walkabout? Then Deloris focuses on moon during a reverie in episode 4. Possible misdirected given gravity issue but interesting, and stronger evidence than for Mars. BTW, may be unimportant now, but if they have multiple seasons then we are looking st AI vs humans or at least among humans. Location will matter at some point.

ken hale

If it's off-planet, $40 thousand a day is starting to sound ridiculously cheap.

tpelzy

If you watch Interstellar(or even Inception) you know the Nolan brothers love to geek out on the physics of their movies. I think if it was on another planet there would be some more bread crumbs leading us to that conclusion.  There would be some wonky details about the physics or about how you get into the park. The park is huge. So perhaps the location is important to the story, but I think it's right here on earth.  

Luke

IMO it's either on a space station or an asteroid. I think Ford is being literal when he said they "created an entire world".

There have also been several references to how remote the place they are is. For example in this episode the board coming seems to be a thing that would take time.

Hell in 2016 you can fly from the other side of the planet to the southwest in a day. Nothing is really remote with air travel.

This has to be in space.

alexander.klassen

It's somewhere vast and remote, and they're really vague about what kind of technological capabilities they have in this future, so I don't think it's out of the question. Or maybe they just evicted everyone from Australia and used that. I don't think it matters right now, but in later seasons, if the droids do take control of the park, then being on another planet would probably stop them from killing ALL humans.

KingKobra

For those saying "it's in space/another planet" have still failed figure out how they have zero lag in communications. Regardless they would still be limited to physical science of communication and this would cause a delay if they were communicating from somewhere out in space.

Australia is a "perfect" spot for this I've thought in the past. It's large enough to encompass worlds and cut off enough to be controlled. I could see them owning a large swath of land or even Australia itself via corporate manipulation.

bsmither

In Ep4, where William and Dolores are having a quiet conversation at night (00:22), Dolores walks a bit away from William and looks into the night sky at the full moon. This moon is a nondescript, featureless, yet is an appropriately sized and illuminated ball of white light. This makes a good suggestion that WW is on Earth.

Next, the lighting changes and the background fades into shadows. The scene cuts (to a different perspective) and we see that Dolores is standing alone. She is illuminated by a very bright light and she looks at the Moon again. This is a very detailed image of the Moon as seen from Earth.

(This is irrelevant, but next, that image is morphed into a bright flood light. Dolores is down and a recovery crew is working the aftermath of an event.)

So, the question is, what is Dolores seeing when looking upwards? A fake moon? A real moon on another planet? Luna?

What is Dolores seeing/imagining/remembering when she sees Luna? The image shown is that typically seen from the northern hemisphere. If seen from the southern hemisphere, a proper view would be this image rotated 180°.

If seen at L5, there would be 60° of different visible features.

(A Decrypted podcast mentions lines and bright lights on the moon, thus indicative of colonization. The image shows no such artificialities.)

Hatorian

id put money it's on Earth. Don't buy the decompression thing as anything more than making sure someone understands that what they did at Westworld cannot be done in the real world. IE killing/raping. If you lived in a place for a month where you could just walk into a bar and shoot people I think Delos would want to absolve themselves of any legal issues where someone then takes that mindset with them when they leave the park.

The decompression thing sounds more like "it's not good for your brain to live in a fake reality for more than 28 days and that could have significant impact on your mental state" rather than you can only live on another planet for 28 days at a time. That seems awfully low considering what would be required to travel to another planet.

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