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  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    How did she pass her medical education courses???  Someone didn’t check her transcripts...
  • Hi everybody ... Hollywood Upstairs Medical College.
    cdriveHatorianDee
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    So there’s been cases in Australia of the Delta variant spreading from people just walking past each other in a shopping centre. This one is highly contagious and so far thought to be resistant to the vaccine, so I think America should be concerned, since it’s been found there too. 

    I’m not getting my first jab until July 15. So far they haven’t found any Delta cases in my state, but the borders are still open to states who do have cases, so I’m shitting it a bit, to be honest. Everyone here is so complacent - we haven’t worn masks in months, we are still meant to be social distancing but no one is (including in my terribly ventilated office), people ignore signs about limits in elevators, nothing is really getting cleaned properly anymore, people sail past the QR check in of shops and buildings, etc. It’s only a matter of time until it ramps up again. :-/

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/covid-delta-kappa-variant-spread-in-fleeting-moment-nsw-vic/100238680

    HatorianMichellecdrive
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    Dee said:
    So there’s been cases in Australia of the Delta variant spreading from people just walking past each other in a shopping centre. This one is highly contagious and so far thought to be resistant to the vaccine, so I think America should be concerned, since it’s been found there too. 

    I’m not getting my first jab until July 15. So far they haven’t found any Delta cases in my state, but the borders are still open to states who do have cases, so I’m shitting it a bit, to be honest. Everyone here is so complacent - we haven’t worn masks in months, we are still meant to be social distancing but no one is (including in my terribly ventilated office), people ignore signs about limits in elevators, nothing is really getting cleaned properly anymore, people sail past the QR check in of shops and buildings, etc. It’s only a matter of time until it ramps up again. :-/

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/covid-delta-kappa-variant-spread-in-fleeting-moment-nsw-vic/100238680

    I know this is like the opposite of what you want but I really hope the borders open. My wife hasn’t seen her family in 2 years. I know AU is much slower on the vaccine side. But once the vaccine is readily available to anyone, I say open up. Can’t keep locking down to cater to the unvaccinated. I get old people and immunocompromised. But it’s actually easier for the economy to implement measures to protect them than it is for full lockdown. 
  • CretanBullCretanBull Toronto
    edited June 23
    Dee said:
    So there’s been cases in Australia of the Delta variant spreading from people just walking past each other in a shopping centre. This one is highly contagious and so far thought to be resistant to the vaccine, so I think America should be concerned, since it’s been found there too. 

    I’m not getting my first jab until July 15. So far they haven’t found any Delta cases in my state, but the borders are still open to states who do have cases, so I’m shitting it a bit, to be honest. Everyone here is so complacent - we haven’t worn masks in months, we are still meant to be social distancing but no one is (including in my terribly ventilated office), people ignore signs about limits in elevators, nothing is really getting cleaned properly anymore, people sail past the QR check in of shops and buildings, etc. It’s only a matter of time until it ramps up again. :-/

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/covid-delta-kappa-variant-spread-in-fleeting-moment-nsw-vic/100238680

    I've had two shots of Pfizer, I still stay at home as often as possible and I always wear a mask and social distance when I have to go out.  People here are more lax because the numbers are way down, but we saw the numbers drop off last summer too (before anyone had a vaccine etc).  I'm waiting to see what happens in the Fall & early Winter before I change any of my routines.
    Deebridgy1112MarciJoshTheBlack
  • cdrivecdrive Houston, TX
    Delta Variant in the US tripled in growth from 10% of cases to 31% in 6 days.  I’m fully vaxxed but Sunday my little one had a fever and then I started developing symptoms too. I think it’s a stomach bug, maybe norovirus, but the overlapping symptoms and my little one having a fever (he’s well now) drove me to get a drive-thru rapid Covid test at Walgreens yesterday.

    Results came back negative in about 3 hrs. Wildly different from the mayhem of when I had to get a test this time last year.  CDC here says if you have similar symptoms to go get tested even if fully vaxxed so that’s what I did.  Especially for the kiddo. 

    We’re not out of this yet… parts of the U.S. are simply not going to get vaxxed ever due to their flawed ideology. Alabama and Mississippi are only like 30% vaxxed. And this Delta Variant can transmit with just a brush by, like 10 cm to 60 cm within seconds…
    DeeCretanBull
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    Hatorian said:
    Dee said:
    So there’s been cases in Australia of the Delta variant spreading from people just walking past each other in a shopping centre. This one is highly contagious and so far thought to be resistant to the vaccine, so I think America should be concerned, since it’s been found there too. 

    I’m not getting my first jab until July 15. So far they haven’t found any Delta cases in my state, but the borders are still open to states who do have cases, so I’m shitting it a bit, to be honest. Everyone here is so complacent - we haven’t worn masks in months, we are still meant to be social distancing but no one is (including in my terribly ventilated office), people ignore signs about limits in elevators, nothing is really getting cleaned properly anymore, people sail past the QR check in of shops and buildings, etc. It’s only a matter of time until it ramps up again. :-/

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/covid-delta-kappa-variant-spread-in-fleeting-moment-nsw-vic/100238680

    I know this is like the opposite of what you want but I really hope the borders open. My wife hasn’t seen her family in 2 years. I know AU is much slower on the vaccine side. But once the vaccine is readily available to anyone, I say open up. Can’t keep locking down to cater to the unvaccinated. I get old people and immunocompromised. But it’s actually easier for the economy to implement measures to protect them than it is for full lockdown. 
    Very few people here are vaccinated - some of it is definitely due to vaccine hesitancy because of AZ, but most of it is just government ineptitude. They were offered an order of population levels of Pfizer back in July and turned it down. Now they are scrambling around trying to get enough of it. We have had vaccinations since early March and it’s only been in the last month or so they set up hubs for it - before that they relied on GPs to sort it out. So for most people here, being unvaccinated isn’t their choice. 

    Also, if Delta really is resistant to vaccine and we have to wait for a new one to be developed, what do we do then? We can’t just open up and let people die. 

    It’s a pity your wife isn’t a celebrity. We have been letting those goobers come in and out the whole time, infuriatingly. 
    Hatorian
  • Dee said:
    Hatorian said:
    Dee said:
    So there’s been cases in Australia of the Delta variant spreading from people just walking past each other in a shopping centre. This one is highly contagious and so far thought to be resistant to the vaccine, so I think America should be concerned, since it’s been found there too. 

    I’m not getting my first jab until July 15. So far they haven’t found any Delta cases in my state, but the borders are still open to states who do have cases, so I’m shitting it a bit, to be honest. Everyone here is so complacent - we haven’t worn masks in months, we are still meant to be social distancing but no one is (including in my terribly ventilated office), people ignore signs about limits in elevators, nothing is really getting cleaned properly anymore, people sail past the QR check in of shops and buildings, etc. It’s only a matter of time until it ramps up again. :-/

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/covid-delta-kappa-variant-spread-in-fleeting-moment-nsw-vic/100238680

    I know this is like the opposite of what you want but I really hope the borders open. My wife hasn’t seen her family in 2 years. I know AU is much slower on the vaccine side. But once the vaccine is readily available to anyone, I say open up. Can’t keep locking down to cater to the unvaccinated. I get old people and immunocompromised. But it’s actually easier for the economy to implement measures to protect them than it is for full lockdown. 

    Also, if Delta really is resistant to vaccine and we have to wait for a new one to be developed, what do we do then? We can’t just open up and let people die. 

    I've read some good-ish news on this front.  While vaccinated people are still getting infected by the Delta variant, the hospitalization rate is very, very low (something 5% of the vaccinated people who managed to get the infection).

    Hatorian
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    @CretanBull Well, that’s good, but if you can catch it you can spread it. I don’t know, I feel lile
    everyone everywhere just keeps relaxing the second we seem to have a handle on things and we are never really going to get it under control.
    CretanBull
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    Yea. I’m just over catering to antivax. I’m all for lockdowns on Ederly care facilities and mask requirements for schools and what not. I’ll do my role. But life needs to go on and we need to be able to see our families. We did everything that was asked of us. Plus this variant thing will never end. You think Delta is the last one? No way. Just the start. We cant lockdown borders every time a new variant comes. I don’t think it’s selfish in these thoughts. But I don’t want to sound like an asshole who’s cool with people dying. I’ve come to accept some will die. But if I do my part I won’t contribute to it. Correct me if im wrong. 
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    I know AUs in a different place. I’m just worried that even when vaccinations are readily available there, it won’t stop. 
  • Dee said:
    @CretanBull Well, that’s good, but if you can catch it you can spread it. I don’t know, I feel lile
    everyone everywhere just keeps relaxing the second we seem to have a handle on things and we are never really going to get it under control.
    I agree on both accounts.  It's "good-ish" news because the vaccine reduces the hospitalization rate for people who have the Delta variant, but not actually good news because we can still spread it.  I also share the same fears regarding relaxing the restrictions.  We've been through a yo-yo effect here where we keep doing lockdowns, then when the numbers go down we open back up again, numbers go up and we go back into lockdown.  It's been completely impossible to keep trade of what's open, what's closed, what the rules are etc because they change every few weeks.  That's why I've taken the approach that I have...I don't care what other people are doing, I'm going to keep up with sheltering in place, the mask-wearing, and social distancing when I'm forced to go out and see how things play out over the next 6 months.
    Dee
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    I had my first Pfizer jab yesterday morning and I took yesterday and today off in anticipation of bad side effects (I am always sick for a couple of days after my flu jab every year). But it’s 24 hours later and so far nothing more than a bit of soreness on my arm where they stabbed me. 


    asmallcatChinaskicdriveMichelleHatorianFreddyMrXJoshTheBlack
  • Most feel the greatest effects from the second dose.
    Michelle
  • ChinaskiChinaski Santa Cruz, CA
    tom_g said:
    Most feel the greatest effects from the second dose.
    yeah second one kicked my ass :#

    Michelle
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    Goddamnit
  • Sorry
  • ChinaskiChinaski Santa Cruz, CA
    what's wild to me is how it's so much different for everyone. i've known people that have been floored and ran high fevers, and i've known people (like my sister and mom) that had zero side effects other than a sore arm like you @Dee. hope your second one is as smooth sailing as your first. you're half way there!
    Dee
  • MichelleMichelle California
    tom_g said:
    Most feel the greatest effects from the second dose.
    Yeah, that 2nd Pfizer dose took me out for about a day - day 1/2.  It wasn’t great.  Sorry Dee. :disappointed:  I just tried to remember that it was for a good cause.
    Dee
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    My wife’s parents and older sister got theirs finally. Australia is on the move!
    Dee
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    @Hatorian We still have less than 10% vaccinated (including loads of people living and working in aged care). It’s a bloody shambles. 
    Hatorian
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    At least shots are going into arms. Hopefully it picks up
    DeeMichelle
  • Teresa from ConcordTeresa from Concord Concord, California
    @Dee I was ok after second shot and wishing the same for you. 
    Dee
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    @Teresa from Concord Thanks, Teresa - fingers crossed!
  • @Dee I'll Second Teresa: I was a little tired after the second dose but nothing major.  Most of my family also received Pfizer and had no major side effects.  Not a guarantee you won't have any, but having side effects is not a certainty.  In contrast, almost everyone I know who received the other two shots available in the USA did have side effects.  All anecdotal, but something.
    Dee
  • Yeah I had moderna and had almost no side effects from either. 
  • I had no real side effects from any of my 2 Pfizer doses - just a bit of a sore arm/shoulder, but not out of commission at all or anything the next day.
    Freddy
  • DeeDee Adelaide
    Day 1 of a 7 day (hopefully) snap lockdown in my state. A good opportunity to catch up on my shows and books. 
    cdriveMichelle
  • HatorianHatorian Dagobah
    It’s like game of thrones…I swear…all the PMs seem to do is fight. I am a permanent resident there so I can feel like I can shit on them. 

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/australias-victoria-reports-12-coronavirus-225554500.html

     
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