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  • I loved the latest episode and how they essentially pulled a Last Jedi by revealing the "Time Keepers" aren't the big bad (or at least aren't dumb enough to show themselves to variants). TBH those androids did look absolutely ridiculous like space lizards.
  • Yup, fantastic episode. If you didn't see the midcredit scene go back and check it out. 
  • lengmolengmo RTP, NC
    On the Still Watching podcast in the director’s interview it came out that episode 3 was not shot in the volume.
  • lengmo said:
    On the Still Watching podcast in the director’s interview it came out that episode 3 was not shot in the volume.
    I kept meaning to come here and post this. ILM doesn’t have a StageCraft studio here in Atlanta. This was all filmed on backlot at Pinewood-Atlanta with big blue screens all around the area. 

    They’re currently building a second StageCraft studio in LA, as well as a permanent one in Pinewood-London and one in Australia. 

     
    lengmo
  • Hey @A_Ron_Hubbard in regards to Lady Sif and the Warriors 3 - she's the only one still aliveb in the "sacred timeline", the rest were killed by Hela in Ragnarok (I guess in time jail with Loki however that distinction doesn't matter).

    Can't remember specifics but I think Lady Sif was off-world for some reason, but she might be returning for Thor 4, would be cool for her to have a more developed arc this time.
  • Also was it warriors 3 or warriors 4? I thought there was Sif, the (Asian? been awhile since I saw Thor) guy who gets killed by Hela outside the palace in Asgard, loud bearded guy who eats a lot, and then foppish mustache guy with the rapier. I suppose I could have gone and looked up their names, but describing them was funnier. 

  • asmallcat said:
    Also was it warriors 3 or warriors 4? I thought there was Sif, the (Asian? been awhile since I saw Thor) guy who gets killed by Hela outside the palace in Asgard, loud bearded guy who eats a lot, and then foppish mustache guy with the rapier. I suppose I could have gone and looked up their names, but describing them was funnier. 


    They were referred to as "Sif and the Warriors Three" https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Warriors_Three
    So there were 4 of them, but she got top billing.


    asmallcat
  • Watching episode 5. That opening is slick. 
  • rhcooprhcoop Knoxville, Tn
    edited July 2021
    This was the first episode I really enjoyed.  I love Hiddleston and Wilson, but the rest of the actors and the story has been "meh" for me. 



    I'm not 100% sure how to hide spoilers on here, but run if I didn't format it correctly.



    I really enjoyed the Alligator Loki and the kid Loki.  Good mix up of the kid loki from the comics a while back and King Candy from Shazam (I know . . . but it is a thing). 

    Who actually caught Frog Thor on the first go around?  I did, but I was actively looking for easter eggs based on where they were.  

    Classic Loki's costume was legit.  

    I just wish I cared about Enchantress/Female Loki.  She just doesn't excite me, the guard lady from Lovecraft Country is more interesting to me, but whatever.

    I do wish they would quit C-teasing and just get to Kang being the big bad.  I mean anyone that's read avengers for a bit should see that coming miles and miles away. Or they may use Immortus, but that's the same damn character anyhow.

    However, this is the best TV show they have put together yet.  I just worry for the others moving forward as Hiddleston is one of their best actors.

    This was the first episode I really enjoyed.  I love Hiddleston and Wilson, but the rest of the actors and the story has been "meh" for me. 

    I'm not 100% sure how to hide spoilers on here, but run if I didn't format it correctly.





    Hatorianbizmarkiefader
  • bizmarkiefaderbizmarkiefader San Francisco
    Lol I have never once gotten the spoilers tag to work successfully without editing as html. It might as well be a spoiler thread cause most of the stuff worth talking about is in the commercials anyway and I can't imagine there are that many people regularly checking a thread on a show they aren't watching and are also sensitive to spoilers about it.

    The Loki variants were fun even if I was hoping for a little more back story for some of them when they were shown in the commercials before the show started. I never really liked Loki much during most of his MCU run but this has been really good on selling him as a character.

    Also interesting that this show seems to be the foundation for an entire arc of MCU movies dealing with all this multiverse stuff which you would think would be reserved for a mainline Avengers movie. I'm surprised this wasn't squeezed into 45 minutes of the 3 and a half hour runtime of Avengers 8: Oh god what do we do without iron man

    Hatorianrhcoop
  • rhcooprhcoop Knoxville, Tn
    Lol I have never once gotten the spoilers tag to work successfully without editing as html. It might as well be a spoiler thread cause most of the stuff worth talking about is in the commercials anyway and I can't imagine there are that many people regularly checking a thread on a show they aren't watching and are also sensitive to spoilers about it.

    The Loki variants were fun even if I was hoping for a little more back story for some of them when they were shown in the commercials before the show started. I never really liked Loki much during most of his MCU run but this has been really good on selling him as a character.

    Also interesting that this show seems to be the foundation for an entire arc of MCU movies dealing with all this multiverse stuff which you would think would be reserved for a mainline Avengers movie. I'm surprised this wasn't squeezed into 45 minutes of the 3 and a half hour runtime of Avengers 8: Oh god what do we do without iron man

    The real question is what we do without Cap.  I still maintain that the cliff notes on the MCU is to just watch the films Cap is in.  They all drive the main narrative.

    I get everyone likes IM, but Cap is the driver and most important character IMO. 

    I'll get off my star spangled soap box, but if they wait until the last episode to introduce Kang I'm going to be pretty disappointed.

  • Teresa from ConcordTeresa from Concord Concord, California
    Was that sudden @A_Ron_Hubbard double audio echo done by mischievous Loki?
  • edited July 2021
    This episode was a lot of fun, and there were some great urban legend references in there. These are the two I noticed:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polybius_(urban_legend)  - This game was in the Loki hideout

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Eldridge#Philadelphia_Experiment - This was the ship kid Loki summoned. 
  • ChinaskiChinaski Santa Cruz, CA
    classic Owen Wilson as he's embracing in a bro hug moment and whispers to Sylvie "you're my favorite..' :D
    Murderbear
  • lengmolengmo RTP, NC
    Didn't see that reveal coming



  • cdrivecdrive Houston, TX
    Oh man that was the best! We’re on Pacific time momentarily so we stayed up to midnight to watch the finale with our 9 yr old who got into Loki midway with us.  

    Comment that is probably a spoiler:


    I really loved what Jonathan Majors did with that role of “He Who Remains.” He took it and went all the way.
    I liked how so much of the finale’s runtime was dedicated to a Mexican stand off with a philosophical dilemma, and Majors just really convincing the audience how insane he is yet how logical he is.  It was like they were playing chess with Death a la The Seventh Seal.  I loved the stinger that there will be a Season 2.  I don’t know if that was already known but it was news to me.  This is my favorite thing MCU has put out since Endgame.


    awookiee
  • rhcooprhcoop Knoxville, Tn
    cdrive said:
    Oh man that was the best! We’re on Pacific time momentarily so we stayed up to midnight to watch the finale with our 9 yr old who got into Loki midway with us.  

    Comment that is probably a spoiler:


    I really loved what Jonathan Majors did with that role of “He Who Remains.” He took it and went all the way.
    I liked how so much of the finale’s runtime was dedicated to a Mexican stand off with a philosophical dilemma, and Majors just really convincing the audience how insane he is yet how logical he is.  It was like they were playing chess with Death a la The Seventh Seal.  I loved the stinger that there will be a Season 2.  I don’t know if that was already known but it was news to me.  This is my favorite thing MCU has put out since Endgame.


    Still not sure how to hide stuff, but spoilers.





    Spoilers . . . .




    Here it comes . . .


    I wish they hadn't danced around the main bad guy reveal for so long. Anyone that's read a lot of Marvel time travel stories saw this coming a mile away.

    I don't think most people were expecting this version of the bad guy to be Immortus, but it makes sense as they get their cake and eat it too.  He's a future version of Kang when he's not so bent on conquest.

    It would have been cool to actually see Kang come in and wreck Immortus' castle, but whatever.

    He'll be the main bad guy of this phase.  I'd rather see the main characters face Kang, but by using him they open the door to recasting Cap and Iron man and brining in the X-Men pretty easily.

    awookiee
  • lengmo said:
    Didn't see that reveal coming



    I feel like I'm missing something here?

    Anyway, I still very much enjoyed the season, but I HATE when shows end their first season on a cliffhanger. 
  • lengmolengmo RTP, NC
    edited July 2021
    asmallcat said:
    I feel like I'm missing something here?

    That's Angela Kang, who is in charge of The Walking Dead



  • edited July 2021
    Ohhhhhhhhh, ok, I thought the photo was of someone who was revealed in the show and I was like "huh?" Yeah knowing her name would definitely have helped lol. 

    Edit - And just to be sure, that statue is of the same actor who played he who remains, right? Is that the origin of Kang in the comics?


  • lengmolengmo RTP, NC
    Hilarious and brutal


    asmallcat
  • Teresa from ConcordTeresa from Concord Concord, California
    He cracks me up
  • I recently subscribed to Disney+ and am making my way through MCU I've yet to see. So, Loki! Entertaining stuff, as you'd expect, and good character work. The plot, though, well, it's always hard to keep things straight when time travel is involved. The Screen Rant video covers plenty of it.

    The biggest question I'm sure much of the internet had after the series is why the TVA didn't go after Cap when he made his happy ending with Peggy timeline. The only explanation I can think of is that the events of this series kept the TVA occupied long enough that by the time Steve made that branch, the TVA was busy with other things. It seems unlikely that Steve being with Peggy would leave her life so unaltered that the Sacred Timeline wouldn't be affected.

    Speaking of the TVA, we're to assume that Loki just ended up at a new branch at the end, right?

    Amazing that the most plot relevant people are apparently the only ones that survive their trip to the Void. And the occasional marauder, it seems. Still, would have been a nice touch if we'd seen that Mongolian group chilling out in the background while the Lokis were running around the Void.

    I'm not entirely sure I always buy the free will argument when it comes to time travel and knowing the future. To me, the one character I can think of who doesn't have free will because he knows the future and always seems to act in ways that will make that future come to pass is Doctor Manhattan. Just because He Who Remains already knows what choice everyone is going to make, doesn't mean they're still not making that choice when the moment comes. I feel like I'm going into Oracle in The Matrix territory here.

    What I do like is the idea that it's the nature of the Universe that spontaneously creates branch timelines and that He Who Remains is trying to control natural order itself in order to maintain a single timeline.

    Also, nice to see Jaimie Alexander again.
  • Garthgou81Garthgou81 Placerville, CA
    jluzania said:
    The biggest question I'm sure much of the internet had after the series is why the TVA didn't go after Cap when he made his happy ending with Peggy timeline. The only explanation I can think of is that the events of this series kept the TVA occupied long enough that by the time Steve made that branch, the TVA was busy with other things. It seems unlikely that Steve being with Peggy would leave her life so unaltered that the Sacred Timeline wouldn't be affected.
     
    If memory serves, their explanation was that even though it is the Sacred Timeline, there are things that are supposed to happen. It doesn't mean that every aberration needs to be eradicated. And apparently Steve staying in the past to live out things with Peggy is one of those things that is supposed to happen? Why? Who knows...plotting reasons.

    Side note: I may totally be wrong...it has been a while since I watched, and I don't have any evidence to support anything that I just wrote. That is just what I am pulling from memory. 
  • jluzania said:
    The biggest question I'm sure much of the internet had after the series is why the TVA didn't go after Cap when he made his happy ending with Peggy timeline. The only explanation I can think of is that the events of this series kept the TVA occupied long enough that by the time Steve made that branch, the TVA was busy with other things. It seems unlikely that Steve being with Peggy would leave her life so unaltered that the Sacred Timeline wouldn't be affected.
     
    If memory serves, their explanation was that even though it is the Sacred Timeline, there are things that are supposed to happen. It doesn't mean that every aberration needs to be eradicated. And apparently Steve staying in the past to live out things with Peggy is one of those things that is supposed to happen? Why? Who knows...plotting reasons.

    Side note: I may totally be wrong...it has been a while since I watched, and I don't have any evidence to support anything that I just wrote. That is just what I am pulling from memory. 

    From what I recall, Loki tries to defend himself by noting it's the Avengers who were messing with the timeline and maybe the TVA should be going after them. I believe Ravonna retorts that what the Avengers did was "supposed" to happen. Which to me makes sense because the Avengers largely didn't alter the past after they followed the Ancient One's instructions and returned the Infinity Stones to around the moments where they grabbed them.

    However, after returning the stones and keeping the timeline intact, Steve seems to make that new branch. Now, the TVA could have accepted that, but I don't know why He Who Remains would have been fine with that branch's existence, which is why Jim and A.Ron thought we might get an easter egg indicating they were cool with Steve's new branch due to his service to the Sacred Timeline. I think it has to be one of two explanations: either HWR and the TVA just accepted the new branch because of Steve's efforts to keep the timeline intact, or, since at least some of the events of Loki run concurrently with Endgame, the branch wasn't an issue until they were no longer in position to deal with it. It's also possible that Steve's effect on Peggy's life didn't make the branch move off far enough to be pruned before HWR's death. I don't know, it's probably too much thinking for a story point that the writers' may have just treated with a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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