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  • NBA 2021 Thread

    Chinaski said:
    Steals, like blocks, are a terrible example of good defense. For every successful steal (or block) there are many failed attempts that take you off your man, and out of position. Not that there's great defense these days.

    -if anything, nowadays a steal when you're man-ing up a defender that's trying to drive, or shake to launch a 3 is pretty good D. i watched a lot of GSW games that year, and when he led the league in steals, they weren't all sloppy passes by the opposition.

    'Yeah they had 71 wins with a stacked team in a soft, watered down league. It's even worse now than when Nash won back to back MVPs. The voting is as political as anything, so not impressive to me'

    -they had 73 wins, and it wasn't really THAT stacked. if they were, the big 3 were homegrown (Steph, Dray and Klay.) "Strengths and Numbers". as far as the voting goes, yeah it's always been political. which makes the only unanimous  voting even more impressive imo.

    "Yes he's got records for 3's made and attempted (unless Harden beat his attempts record), but 3 point shooting is up about 11 000% since the shot was introduced 50 years ago. That's not an exaggeration"

    -the 3-point shot was introduced when i was born, 1979 (42 years ago). and it took years for players to develop it, and change a whole game like Steph has. pretty sure everyone and the kids nowadays are launching 3's is cause of Curry, and wanting to be like him (big shout out Trae Young). hence, revolutionizing the game.

    "He's much better at making them than most, and has better range. But hitting threes doesn't make a great all around player."

    -maybe not an all around player, but a 3 is better than 2 when most players are missing them, and not being close to 50% like Curry. back to his D, not like he launches, misses and sits back all mopey (ahem LBJ). he gets back on D and can be a pest.

    "I'd take him over just about any PG today of course (way, way, way before Westbrook), but he's not an all time great to me. He's perfect for today's league though, stretches the floor better than anyone."

    -that's fair, but 'today's league' is 'today's league' cause of Steph Curry. if you can't see that then i have no business in this discussion. say what you want, but at 33 years old and with several years left in this league he's already the greatest shooter off all time bar none.

    Chinaski said:
    Steals, like blocks, are a terrible example of good defense. For every successful steal (or block) there are many failed attempts that take you off your man, and out of position. Not that there's great defense these days.

    -if anything, nowadays a steal when you're man-ing up a defender that's trying to drive, or shake to launch a 3 is pretty good D. i watched a lot of GSW games that year, and when he led the league in steals, they weren't all sloppy passes by the opposition.

    'Yeah they had 71 wins with a stacked team in a soft, watered down league. It's even worse now than when Nash won back to back MVPs. The voting is as political as anything, so not impressive to me'

    -they had 73 wins, and it wasn't really THAT stacked. if they were, the big 3 were homegrown (Steph, Dray and Klay.) "Strengths and Numbers". as far as the voting goes, yeah it's always been political. which makes the only unanimous  voting even more impressive imo.

    "Yes he's got records for 3's made and attempted (unless Harden beat his attempts record), but 3 point shooting is up about 11 000% since the shot was introduced 50 years ago. That's not an exaggeration"

    -the 3-point shot was introduced when i was born, 1979 (42 years ago). and it took years for players to develop it, and change a whole game like Steph has. pretty sure everyone and the kids nowadays are launching 3's is cause of Curry, and wanting to be like him (big shout out Trae Young). hence, revolutionizing the game.

    "He's much better at making them than most, and has better range. But hitting threes doesn't make a great all around player."

    -maybe not an all around player, but a 3 is better than 2 when most players are missing them, and not being close to 50% like Curry. back to his D, not like he launches, misses and sits back all mopey (ahem LBJ). he gets back on D and can be a pest.

    "I'd take him over just about any PG today of course (way, way, way before Westbrook), but he's not an all time great to me. He's perfect for today's league though, stretches the floor better than anyone."

    -that's fair, but 'today's league' is 'today's league' cause of Steph Curry. if you can't see that then i have no business in this discussion. say what you want, but at 33 years old and with several years left in this league he's already the greatest shooter off all time bar none.
    I'd say Nash and those Mavs/Sun's teams started the revolution (more of an evolution), which was significantly enhanced by the rule changes.

    Yes, making 40% of 3's is better than making 50% of 2's. That is partly why the league has shifted towards shooting more 3's. Irrelevant in an argument on him being an all time great player.

    I'm not sure what your sloppy passes argument is trying to convey.

    MVP voting is pretty irrelevant imo.

    Sure he's one of the best shooter's ever, best of today. I'm not sure he's the best ever. Not like they're can ever be a definitive best ever.

    His free throw shooting is also not significant due to his low to medium attempts per game. (4.2 per game career, whereas say Harden is always in double digits). Nash also shot 90% often. Durant is over 88% and has went far more often (earlier in his career for sure).

    I always get the years the 3 point shot and DH in the AL mixed up. I don't see how that's important though.

    I'm just not impressed by the media's hype about him, but the NBA is certainly the best when it comes to marketing their players.

    Chinaski
  • MLB 2021

    Doing my part to make this an NL Central (as opposed to an AL West) thread...


    This didn't age well.  :|
    JoshuaHeter
  • MLB 2021

    jluzania said:
    Chinaski said:
    here we go again. sigh..


    if they leave, that will the third major sports team Mayor Libby Schaaf lost on her watch :#.

    dare i say 'Las VegA's '.
    Not to mention it's be the third time the A's have moved! Plus, 53 years in Philly, 53 years in Oakland... 

    And with Portland's average longitude slightly west of Oakland's they would continue their march east to west.
    Next stop, Hawaii?
    ChinaskiJoshuaHeter
  • MLB 2021

    Michelle said:
    Ugh, that was such a bs call! :angry:

    Yup, should have been an infield fly.

    You're watching the Cards-Phillies game, right?
    Michelle
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