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  • Watchmen Hype

    OpusWho said:
    They are a good jumping off point for basic story but so much world building is in the sections before and after each chapter in all the supplemental material...forgive my nerdy completism(?) not sure thats a word :#
    Did you ever watch the movie with the animated Black Freighter stuff inserted? I know thats not the entirety of what you are talking about, but it was a good nod to that material.
    I've never been able to tolerate that black freighter stuff.  I've tried to re-read those parts several times, but I just found it incredibly boring. 

    I think that kills a lot of people when they try to read the book. I tell people to skip it entirely their first pass through the story. 
    OpusWho
  • About to dive into Neil Gaiman's Sandman - SEND HELP!

    Really appreciate it! I am slowly gathering and reading some graphic novels I have wanted to read for a while. I just never got into comics because superhero stuff does little for me, but the writing and art, I feel has so much more freedom and creativity in graphic novels. At this point, I still so much prefer limited series...I like to be able to hold the whole thing in my hand and know there isn't some rabbit trail of extra material I have to follow! But I am sure I will adapt ;)

    I just finished reading "From Hell" by Alan Moore, and it was just incredible. I WANT MOOORE!!!!



    My current comic book knowledge is limited - it's been quite awhile since I've bought anything new - but the I know a lot about the era that you seem to be interested in (Sandman, From Hell, Watchmen etc).

    In the 90's the publisher DC separated some of it's titles from their 'mainstream' (ie 'superhero') continuity and made a 'mature readers' line called Vertigo - that's where guys like Gaiman, Moore and Grant Morrison ended up putting out a lot of their best work.So, if you're looking for some titles to read check out series that were put out by DC under their Vertigo imprint.  Off the top of my head, I'd recommend:Alan Moore's run on Swamp Thing - theses are available as graphic novels (I think 6 or 7 of them?) it's one of the all-time great comic book story arcs.Garth Ennis's Preacher - I hope these are in graphic novel format because the TV show caused the original comics to shoot up in valueHellblazer - this is a huge series, I doubt the whole thing is available in GN but one to look out for is arc by Garth Ennis called "Dangerous Habits"Brian K. Vaughan's Y: The Last ManGrant Morrison's Invisibles Grant Morrison's Animal Man---I realize that you're not interested in superhero stuff, but sometimes when the above writers get a hold of a 'superhero' the results transcend the genre and appeal to a broader audience...I'd recommend these, all of them are graphic novels:Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns - an old, long retired Batman is forced out of retirement by a new wave of crime in Gotham (this along with 'The Watchmen' are considered the books that caused a sea change in the industry at the time and re-focused comics on a more mature audience).Alan Moore's Batman: The Killing Joke - The Joker sets out to prove that the difference between himself and any other person is 'one bad bay', that in an instant your whole life can change.Grant Morrison's Arkham Asylum - Batman is called to the Arkham Asylum where the inmates have taken over and taken hostages..it forces Batman to face many of his past foes and also solve a mystery of sorts about the Asylum itself.  This one might sound too 'superhero-y' from my description, but it reads much more like a horror comic (maybe similar to 'From Hell') and is meant to be a complete deconstruction of the superhero genre.
    You're speaking my language! A lot of these are already on my list, The Invisibles up next after Sandman :)  Grant Morrison is the shit, I have read a few of his comics, including superhero stuff like All Star Superman, and it was fantastic. 
    So much great stuff was put out during the early nineties when there were some major shake-ups going on in the comic industry. Of course, there are current titles I desperately need to read titles like Saga and Sex Criminals.
    I also want to check out the more European comics like Jodorowsky's, Incal.....But there are only so many hours in the day  XD
    @CretanBull ;
    If either of you like superhero comics at all I would suggest James Robinson's Starman series.  It's a DC book in the main universe, but it is one long story and about 50 some issues.  Definitely plenty of used trades out there to be found on amazon or ebay.  

    It's a very good father and son story.   A lot of people put it up there with Sandman and the other classic stories you all have mentioned.

    Batman Long Halloween is very good. It's all in one trade so it's easy to read. Fables is a great Vertigo book, basically the story One upon a time ripped off for their show.   

    I would also suggest  Richard Stark's Parker: The Martini Edition: Darwyn Cooke .  Cooke takes the original Stark stories and tells them in comic form.  The martini edition is big and expensive, but each story came out in a single 50-60 page hardback.  They are exceptional and if you like crime or noir stories it's hard to beat.   

    Cooke also did DC New Frontier and it focuses on the space race and the late 50's early sixties.  It's collected in a trade and it's easy to read. 

    Criminal by ed Brubaker is good as well.  I'm a big comic reader so I don't want to overwhelm you all with recommendations, but these are evergreen stories you can enjoy anytime. 
    aberry89